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sfernald



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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:36 pm    Post subject: Patches compatible with kronos Reply with quote

I'm curious what patches are compatible with the Kronos?

Can I download oasys patches and run them? M3? M50? Radias? Triton? MS2000/microkorg? D7? anything else?

I want to start going to the various places and collecting compatible patches on a USB flash drive.
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just the Oasys and yamaha DX7(and some other Yamaha FM synth's) are compatible.

Then it should be compatible with the sampled instruments in .ksf format from oasys/m3/tritons etc I think.
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon Lord wrote:
Just the Oasys and yamaha DX7(and some other Yamaha FM synth's) are compatible.

Then it should be compatible with the sampled instruments in .ksf format from oasys/m3/tritons etc I think.


Does it support .ksc and .kmp files as well?

If it supports DX7 does that mean it supports ni fm7/fm8 patches?
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sfernald wrote:
If it supports DX7 does that mean it supports ni fm7/fm8 patches?


It doesn't support FM7/FM8 patches, it's a different format. I presume it only supports DX7 SysEx dumps.
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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am certainly not an expert, but having spent a bit of time with the manual:

Saving to disk, CDs, and USB media
The following file types can be saved to disk:
• .PCG files Set Lists, Programs, Combinations, global settings, Drum Kits, User Drum Track Patterns, and Wave Sequences . (You can choose which data types are included, via options in the Save dialog.)
• .SNG files Song and region data.
• .KMP files These are Korg format Multisamples.
• .KSF files These are Korg format Samples.
• .KSC files These store collections of EXs Multisamples and Drum Samples, and or User Multisamples and Samples.
• .KFX files Effect preset data.
• .KGE files KARMA GE data.
• .MID files Saves a Sequencer mode song in Standard MIDI File (SMF) format.
• .EXL files System exclusive data from an external device that was saved on the KRONOS. (This allows the KRONOS to be used as a data filer.)
• .WAV and .AIF files: User samples can be exported as WAVE or AIFF files. • .KCD files: These are track lists for audio CDs.

P 173

So it looks like KMP and KSF files are ok.

Chris
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drchris wrote:
I am certainly not an expert, but having spent a bit of time with the manual:

Saving to disk, CDs, and USB media
The following file types can be saved to disk:
• .PCG files Set Lists, Programs, Combinations, global settings, Drum Kits, User Drum Track Patterns, and Wave Sequences . (You can choose which data types are included, via options in the Save dialog.)
• .SNG files Song and region data.
• .KMP files These are Korg format Multisamples.
• .KSF files These are Korg format Samples.
• .KSC files These store collections of EXs Multisamples and Drum Samples, and or User Multisamples and Samples.
• .KFX files Effect preset data.
• .KGE files KARMA GE data.
• .MID files Saves a Sequencer mode song in Standard MIDI File (SMF) format.
• .EXL files System exclusive data from an external device that was saved on the KRONOS. (This allows the KRONOS to be used as a data filer.)
• .WAV and .AIF files: User samples can be exported as WAVE or AIFF files. • .KCD files: These are track lists for audio CDs.

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So it looks like KMP and KSF files are ok.

Chris


From the above list, SNG, PCG, and KGE can only load OASYS versions of these files. It can also load all types of everything else on the above list. so no on the M3, M50, etc programs and combis. But you CAN load sample data from any other Korg workstation (KSC, KSF, KMP, etc), including from the Triton and M-series workstations.
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a bunch of OASYS programs you can download from


http://www.knect.ie/OASYS.html

they are free for download and use (I would always be grateful for an acknowledgemewnt if any of my programs are used on promoted work - but this is not a requirement to using them - they are totally free for use).

I'd be interested to find out if the Kronos can load and play them - especially the CP80 ones based on the OASYS GM CP80 Sample.

You'll also find a vast archive of DX/FM SYX files that will load into MOD-7

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(you lucky person owning a Kronos !!)
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drchris wrote:
I am certainly not an expert, but having spent a bit of time with the manual:

Saving to disk, CDs, and USB media
The following file types can be saved to disk:
• .PCG files Set Lists, Programs, Combinations, global settings, Drum Kits, User Drum Track Patterns, and Wave Sequences . (You can choose which data types are included, via options in the Save dialog.)
• .SNG files Song and region data.
• .KMP files These are Korg format Multisamples.
• .KSF files These are Korg format Samples.
• .KSC files These store collections of EXs Multisamples and Drum Samples, and or User Multisamples and Samples.
• .KFX files Effect preset data.
• .KGE files KARMA GE data.
• .MID files Saves a Sequencer mode song in Standard MIDI File (SMF) format.
• .EXL files System exclusive data from an external device that was saved on the KRONOS. (This allows the KRONOS to be used as a data filer.)
• .WAV and .AIF files: User samples can be exported as WAVE or AIFF files. • .KCD files: These are track lists for audio CDs.

P 173

So it looks like KMP and KSF files are ok.

Chris


Wow, thanks for the comprehensive list. In terms of wave, I wonder what types it supports. I notice a number of programs don't like 32bit for example, even 24bit. I hope it doesn't just accept 16bit, 48k.
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, simply from the manual, not from observation...

p 121:

"When sampling to disk, you can choose either 16-bit or 24-bit resolution. Both 16-bit and 24-bit WAVE files can be used directly in Sequencer mode audio tracks. When loaded as RAM samples, 24-bit WAVE files are automatically converted to 16-bit resolution."

Looks like 24 is ok, 32 is not, but 24 may be "downcoded" to 16 when loaded to RAM.

Hope that helps.
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note that the list there states .PCG files. But PCG is a common file extension used by all of Korg's workstations at least in the past number of years. Doesn't mean the files are actually the same file format/structure or are compatible. They just have similar contents - Program, Combination, & Global data. You can still only load OASYS or KRONOS PCG files.
Same goes for SNG files actually.

KSC, KMP, and KSF have historically been backwards-compatible between workstation lines.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would of been nice if you can load kmp's from a PA800 or PA3x, but I don't think you can?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vangelismusic wrote:
Would of been nice if you can load kmp's from a PA800 or PA3x, but I don't think you can?


Yes, you sure can. And vice versa.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drchris wrote:
I am certainly not an expert, but having spent a bit of time with the manual:

Saving to disk, CDs, and USB media
The following file types can be saved to disk:
• .PCG files Set Lists, Programs, Combinations, global settings, Drum Kits, User Drum Track Patterns, and Wave Sequences . (You can choose which data types are included, via options in the Save dialog.)
• .SNG files Song and region data.
• .KMP files These are Korg format Multisamples.
• .KSF files These are Korg format Samples.
• .KSC files These store collections of EXs Multisamples and Drum Samples, and or User Multisamples and Samples.
• .KFX files Effect preset data.
• .KGE files KARMA GE data.
• .MID files Saves a Sequencer mode song in Standard MIDI File (SMF) format.
• .EXL files System exclusive data from an external device that was saved on the KRONOS. (This allows the KRONOS to be used as a data filer.)
• .WAV and .AIF files: User samples can be exported as WAVE or AIFF files. • .KCD files: These are track lists for audio CDs.

P 173

So it looks like KMP and KSF files are ok.

Chris


Yo! I know it's been a while this discussion ended, just wanted to add you left out SF2 (soundfont) files, they load nicely into HD-1, and a ton of them can be bought in multiformat CD samples
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, soundfont2 are OK !!
But my Kronos crash if I try to load many SF2 at same time, i believe is a system bug
I have also a USB CDR/W plugged on my kronos 61 and load from it all libraries in AKAI format.. A M A Z I N G !!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are very serious about sampling etc, you might be better off investing in a software that does some conversions for you.
I am not saying you can't do a lot on Kronos itself, but if you are going to do it time and again then software will pay for itself, in the time saved.
There are lot of free multisamples available in gig,esx,sfz formats that you can import through a dedicated conversion software.
As for FM patches, mod-7 can import the syx banks of 6 operator synths.

I have done a lot of syx banks conversions myself to pcg files that you can find in my signature. Make sure you read the instructions first and backup all your user banks u-a they u-gg, before loading any.
If you want to know contents of these, you can use the pcgtools software for that.
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