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cachete1966 · Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 1:06 pm Post subject: Kronos CPU

in the near future.....

its possible change the Kronos CPU..??

with any powerful amd cpu..?? with the same socket..??

jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

Are you serious?

- which AMD CPU do you think has the same socket as an Intel Atom???

- which other (more powerful) processor would fit into the the same socket and not cause heating problems within a closed system?

Megakazbek · Junior Member Joined: 04 Oct 2007 Posts: 92

I remember from similar discussion about OASYS that basically operating system manages resources in a very specific way tuned to a specific amount of CPU power, and unless the OS is tweaked, it won't allow more polyphony or FX even if more powerful CPU is installed. So even if you find a way to install a faster CPU, you won't get any benefit from it.

orpheus2006 · Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 3:04 pm Post subject:

It's possible with means of reengineering. Most likely you also need a new motherboard and develop some device drivers. This is not gonna happen in the near future. Wink

The only thing I really would like to have changed is the f...ing data wheel.
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McHale · Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 3:56 pm Post subject:

with the exception of some Korg insiders, nobody else seems to have one.
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EnjoyRC · Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: Kronos CPU

Bach42t · Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:34 pm Post subject:

How about some slick wood side panels with a turbo-charged Atom processor upgrade!

robinkle · Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:03 pm Post subject:

I've shared my opinions on this on a earlier thread. The Kronos is a computer in a keyboard shell (not confirmed, but very much possible). And I would like to pick the CPU I want for it, since keyboard players will use Kronos for different things at different levels. But the CPU needs to support the correct type of socket, the socket that is within Kronos. That being said, why not. Smile

Some on this forum answered me, saying that having users putting their hands inside the Kronos, wouldn't be a good idea.

I'm thinking, some synths have board expansions, why not do the same with a CPU?

Over all, making a keyboard customizable, would be good, the same way todays computers are. Because you could build your own keyboard to your needs. But I guess it might take a while until this will happen. People might argue against it now, same way people did about computers.

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X-Trade · Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:17 pm Post subject:

This discussion has already been around here and the OASYS forum several times.

The OS is 'tweaked' to run well specifically on a chosen CPU. That includes the specific timing of events and order that processes are carried out.

Not to mention the entire system is designed to work well with that CPU - from a hardware and software point of view. Meaning cooling, case size, motherboard, etc. You'd need a different keyboard. Otherwise it could overheat or otherwise fail. For a manufacturer that's not a good idea to make something where you don't know what users might try to install in it.

Also most likely the Atom processor is 'integrated' on the motherboard, as is common with low-cost low-power Atom based systems, you can't change the processor.
Really the fact that it runs an x86 based PC-like system does NOT make it a PC. It is an embedded system. You wouldn't expect to upgrade the processor in the KRONOS any more than you should expect to upgrade your cash register or e-fridge with a faster processor. Or even any other synthesizer that uses custom or generic DSP or ARM(RISC) chips.

Its simply a design decision, like the decision to use any other CPU or specific DSP or any other component.

Not saying its a nice idea. But its just not what the KRONOS is.
Hopefully eventually we will see fully upgradable workstation keyboards based on a PC-like architecture.

It WILL work with the processor already in it - we've already all seen that to some degree. So "if it isn't broken, why fix it?"
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cachete1966 · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 2:46 am Post subject:

Ok....

Really ..... this is a dream.....

And my dream born.... after read page 7 and 8 of parameter guide....!!

A cpu meter....
Voice stealing system
Voice tracks limits
priority sounds
and if not eanough....

bounce midi tracks to audio tracks... to preserve cpu power...????

A powerful CPU is welcome....!!!

This is my dream...!!

A workstation work without cpu limitations

without bounce not for free cpu/poliphony.. only for free tracks....!!

If korg publish in the parameter guide ....

its possible to reach the resources of this machine...:!!

thats all....

My Utopia!!

of course

I want a kronos 73...!!!

And maybe use the opensampling to preserve power....

Gargamel314 · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 2:58 am Post subject:

MartinHines · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:06 am Post subject: Re: Kronos CPU

EvilDragon · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 9:03 am Post subject:

You mean, OASYS III? Laughing