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Flood Junior Member
Joined: 04 May 2011 Posts: 54 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:13 am Post subject: |
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McHale wrote: |
The increased delay is due to the devastation in Japan. The original maker of some of the chips in the Kronos was destroyed in the earthquake. Korg is searching and setting up with another manufacturer of those chips. |
Do you have a source on this? That news hasn't popped up on my radar and I'd like to read up on it.
Do you know the company name? |
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sparkie Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 743 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:15 am Post subject: |
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McHale wrote: | NuSkoolTone wrote: | Seriously September? Any "New hot keyboard" excitement for the board will be long gone by then. Might as well wait for winter NAMM and see what's announced! |
That's what I'm thinking now. I won't be able to use the KRONOS for this season's outdoor festivals so there's no rush for me to get one now. Tack on the fact that Korg (according to rumor) is looking for new chip suppliers because the one they were using was destroyed. I'm QUITE reluctant on getting a keyboard with 3rd rate chips. Look at the M50-61 debacle. Don't get me wrong, I still want one, but I don't want a shoddy one. I may wait for the refresh of the Kronos (Kronos Extreme, Kronos Expanded, whatever). By then, the OS will be mature, I'll see what kind of support/upgrades it gets (or doesn't get). Hell, I may even get a 73/76 key semiweighted. |
McHale, What is the M50 debacle? Are you saying that the Kronos 61 that were already shipped have 3rd rate chips in them..from a different mfgr?? Or Kronos that havent shipped yet like the 88?? Also which chips?? Atom Processor chips? |
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McHale Platinum Member
Joined: 10 Feb 2009 Posts: 2487 Location: B.F.E.
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:52 am Post subject: |
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sparkie wrote: | McHale, What is the M50 debacle? |
Many (but not all) M50-61's have bad caps in them causing the boards to eventually lock up. If some defective caps can render a synth useless, possible blackmarket chips can really wreak havoc on the Kronos. _________________ Current Korg Gear: KRONOS 88 (4GB), M50-73 (PS mod), RADIAS-73, Electribe MX, Triton Pro (MOSS, SCSI, CF, 64MB RAM), SQ-64, DVP-1, MEX-8000, MR-1, KAOSSilator, nanoKey, nanoKontrol, 3x nanoPad 2, 3x DS1H, 7x PS1, FC7 (yes Korg, NOT Yamaha). |
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aron Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2011 Posts: 1549 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Those bad caps affected a lot more than keyboards. I wouldn't worry about the chips... _________________ Korg Kronos, RD-88, Yamaha VL1, Deep Mind 6, Korg Kross, author of unrealBook for iPad. |
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EXer Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 558 Location: France
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:51 am Post subject: |
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StephenJude wrote: | Perhaps--to take the long view--the delay will lead to a Kronos already enhanced upon release? |
For me, a delay is not an issue. I can wait.
And I hope that Korg will take advantage of the fact that the shipping of the Kronos is delayed to improve its OS on these items:
¤ 1. bigger fonts and bigger virtual buttons on the GUI
¤ 2. support for 2 Gb RAM more
¤ 3. streaming of user samples from SSD *or* provide the user with a function to convert user multisamples into EXis |
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TSUNAMI Platinum Member
Joined: 21 Jan 2002 Posts: 597 Location: Watford, Hertfordshire UK
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:11 am Post subject: |
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Sad news to wake up to
Anyone know is this affecting the worldwide shipment ??? Europe ... specifically the UK ??
I thought we had turned a corner with them shipping in Japan, singapore etc ..... _________________ 13in Retina MacBook Pro, Quadcore i5 27in 8GB iMac, Logic Studio 9.1, Ableton Live9, Push, Volca Beats, Korg KRONOS 61, Korg Arp odyssey, Roland D50, Yamaha SY85, Moog Sub37, Roland TR8, Roland SP808, Korg NanoPad2, Eventide H9, Presonus 1602, Alesis M1 MkII, Yamaha APX5, Fender Splattercaster, DrumKat DK10, 1000 miles of cable !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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ScoobyDoo555 Platinum Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2008 Posts: 840 Location: Herefordshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:12 am Post subject: |
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At this late stage, you've got more chance of seeing pigs fly than get support for font-size, memory and streaming (although I agree with you that they might be nice options - not sure about font, as I haven't seen the screen yet)
Maybe as the next OS update, possibly...... but if Korg's reputation is anything to go by
DAn _________________ Yamaha SY77 & KX88, SSL Nucleus, Korg Kronos 61, Wavestation A/D, Access Virus B, Roland XP30, DeepMind12D, System 1m, V-Synth XT, Focusrite Red16Line, Unitor 8, Akai S3000 XL, Alesis Quadraverb+, Focal Shape Twins, Full fat iMac, Logic Pro X, ProTools 2021, loadsa plugins.
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sparkie Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 743 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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McHale wrote: | sparkie wrote: | McHale, What is the M50 debacle? |
Many (but not all) M50-61's have bad caps in them causing the boards to eventually lock up. If some defective caps can render a synth useless, possible blackmarket chips can really wreak havoc on the Kronos. |
Bad Caps!! Wonderful?? Yeah I agree about the chips.. Japan is having a hard time now. If the 61s are arriving soon,,,then why arent they also delayed?? My concern is .... why the additional delay for... just... the 88s?? I would imagine they use the same basic internal components. For some reason they are being held back... and 61s released?? |
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Ajbbklyn Senior Member
Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 258 Location: New Hope, PA
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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According to the Sweetwater web site, the 73's are held back until late summer, too.
As for the M50 - luckily I did not get a bad unit. The caps were causing some boards to freeze up randomly. _________________ KORG Kronos2-61, Yamaha Motif ES6, KORG Minilogue, Farfisa VIP233, Axiom 49, BOSS RT-20, Neo Ventilator
andy-baum.com |
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theshinenz Full Member
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 240
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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just ordered a motif xf to tide me over by the time the Kronos is released I should have saved enough to get one to maybe replace my PC3.
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kid_nepro_2002 Approved Merchant
Joined: 27 Mar 2002 Posts: 557
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Summers pass way too quick anyway. Labor day will be here before you know it.
Proton
www.kidnepro.com/kronos-sounds |
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Scott Platinum Member
Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 1015
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Mine is on order from Nova. The info I just got from them:
61s in June,
73s in July,
88s in August. |
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EnjoyRC Platinum Member
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 746 Location: John 3:16
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Scott wrote: | Mine is on order from Nova. The info I just got from them:
61s in June,
73s in July,
88s in August. |
Yay... Kronos 88 for my Birthday!!! _________________
Korg (Kronos 88, RK-100S 2), Behringer DeepMind 12, Roland (GAIA, A-800-Pro) |
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apex Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 2340
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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StephenJude wrote: | My Rep at Sweetwater confirms that the delays are across the board, for all flavors. He even thinks the September first date is more generic than accurate. What puzzles him is all the trouble he is having getting enough information from Korg to even answer his clients' specific questions. Perhaps--to take the long view--the delay will lead to a Kronos already enhanced upon release? |
yeah I was kinda told the same thing... about September being generic.... heard it could be as late as next June. reputable source too... _________________ Please subscribe and follow me on Youtube and Facebook for information related audio technology.
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EnjoyRC Platinum Member
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 746 Location: John 3:16
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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apex wrote: | StephenJude wrote: | My Rep at Sweetwater confirms that the delays are across the board, for all flavors. He even thinks the September first date is more generic than accurate. What puzzles him is all the trouble he is having getting enough information from Korg to even answer his clients' specific questions. Perhaps--to take the long view--the delay will lead to a Kronos already enhanced upon release? |
yeah I was kinda told the same thing... about September being generic.... heard it could be as late as next June. reputable source too... |
June 2012? Will Earth still be here? _________________
Korg (Kronos 88, RK-100S 2), Behringer DeepMind 12, Roland (GAIA, A-800-Pro) |
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