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Gargamel314 Platinum Member
Joined: 25 Dec 2007 Posts: 1147 Location: Carneys Point, NJ
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:04 am Post subject: Pads options for the Kronos |
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I'm sitting here sequencing guitar parts for a song ... and i'm wondering how in the world i'm every going to get by without the velo sensitive pads on the M3. call me spoiled.
I was thinking... the korg nano-control pads, are they pretty much the same thing as the m3's pads? can you plug them into the Kronos, or do you have to plug them into your computer and route them to the Kronos? is there anything that would be better to use? _________________ Korg Kronos-61, 01/Wfd, SONAR Pro |
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Teh Mick Full Member
Joined: 28 Nov 2007 Posts: 131 Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:23 am Post subject: |
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Unfortunately, the nanoPAD won't work with Kronos. It would require Korg to drive a Linux driver for the nanoPAD. Let's hope they will add support for it in an update. _________________ Korg Kronos 61
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StephenKay KARMA Developer Approved Merchant
Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 2979 Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:49 am Post subject: |
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Yup, unless Korg adds a Linux MIDI Driver for direct plug-in USB type pad devices, it won't work directly. You may be able to route it internally in the computer. Also, any of the larger pad control devices that have actual MIDI out jacks would be able to be plugged into the Kronos directly. _________________ Stephen Kay - KARMA Developer • Karma-Lab - karma-lab.com
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felsineus
Joined: 07 Apr 2011 Posts: 29
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:15 am Post subject: |
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Sorry for the novice's question: can a midi pedal board completely substitute the pad-section, doing all the work? |
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StephenKay KARMA Developer Approved Merchant
Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 2979 Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:33 am Post subject: |
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felsineus wrote: | Sorry for the novice's question: can a midi pedal board completely substitute the pad-section, doing all the work? |
Yes, provided the pedal-board can send the correct messages. _________________ Stephen Kay - KARMA Developer • Karma-Lab - karma-lab.com
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Ksynth Platinum Member
Joined: 01 Jun 2009 Posts: 1225 Location: Northern California, USA
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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I hope to use my NI Maschine to link with the Kronos as the pads on that are superb. |
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Sharp Site Admin
Joined: 02 Jan 2002 Posts: 18197 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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Any of the AKAI Controllers should work. Let me give my one a try with the OASYS and I'll report back.
Regards
Sharp. |
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DaveBoulden Senior Member
Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Posts: 314 Location: Kent, United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Aren't the nano controllers "class compliant"? My nanoKey works on my SMPro Audio V-Machine without needing to add any drivers, which would at least suggest they should work with Linux's built-in drivers... it might make it a little bit easier for Korg to add this in a future update ("possibly" just enabling the drivers within the Linux kernel in the Kronos OS), and would look good that the Kronos supported Korg's own mini controllers. |
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donjuancarlos Full Member
Joined: 21 May 2011 Posts: 105
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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Has anybody tried the "screen pads" of the Kronos yet? How is it tapping up and up and down on the screen to change velocity? |
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jimknopf Platinum Member
Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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The screen is simply not good for that purpose IMHO, judging from the hours I tested the Kronos: not at all as responsive as something like an ipodtouch or ipad screen, and rather serving for entering values without getting unwanted changes. |
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dg-keys
Joined: 04 Sep 2007 Posts: 20 Location: germany
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Hi there,
I just figured out how you can trigger the virtual Kronos pads and get it work like the Korg OASYS. It's very easy!
In Global mode on Page "Controller/Scales) you see the 8 Pads at the lowest line of the display. Here you can set the receive cc's for the virtual pads.
The cc's 110-117 are reserved for the pads only and are not used for any other controller in the Kronos. So you can be shure that you only trigger the pads and no other functions.
Select the ccs for all pads (from 110-117) and that's all you need to do on the Kronos.
Now you have to buy the right midi-pad. The Korg NanoPads aren't work with the Kronos this time but regular midi equipment works fine!
I found the "Vestax Pad-One" USB/MIDI pads on the internet. This thing needs NO software to program the cc's for each pad/controller.
All you need to do with it is to program the cc's 110-117 to 8 pads and you are ready to go with real pads like on the OASYS.
I tried it with the OASYS pads and it works very well! The pads work like a simple remote controller in every mode (program, setlist, comi, seq) and when you change a program or a combi your pads have always the right controllers/chord witch are programed in your Combis/progs.
For the Vestax you don't need a power pack. You can use the Kronos USB for powering. It has a mini-midi connector (with included adapter to normal midi connector) witch can be connected to the Kronos Midi IN.
Very simple and you don't have to wait for a NanoPad integration.
AND: you get lightning pads!
Best regards
Dan
www.danielgeist.de |
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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dg-keys wrote: | Hi there,
I just figured out how you can trigger the virtual Kronos pads and get it work like the Korg OASYS. It's very easy!
In Global mode on Page "Controller/Scales) you see the 8 Pads at the lowest line of the display. Here you can set the receive cc's for the virtual pads.
The cc's 110-117 are reserved for the pads only and are not used for any other controller in the Kronos. So you can be shure that you only trigger the pads and no other functions.
Select the ccs for all pads (from 110-117) and that's all you need to do on the Kronos.
Now you have to buy the right midi-pad. The Korg NanoPads aren't work with the Kronos this time but regular midi equipment works fine!
I found the "Vestax Pad-One" USB/MIDI pads on the internet. This thing needs NO software to program the cc's for each pad/controller.
All you need to do with it is to program the cc's 110-117 to 8 pads and you are ready to go with real pads like on the OASYS.
I tried it with the OASYS pads and it works very well! The pads work like a simple remote controller in every mode (program, setlist, comi, seq) and when you change a program or a combi your pads have always the right controllers/chord witch are programed in your Combis/progs.
For the Vestax you don't need a power pack. You can use the Kronos USB for powering. It has a mini-midi connector (with included adapter to normal midi connector) witch can be connected to the Kronos Midi IN.
Very simple and you don't have to wait for a NanoPad integration.
AND: you get lightning pads!
Best regards
Dan
www.danielgeist.de |
that looks like a good and simple solution.
I was considering a foot controller ( Behringer FCB 1010 or Roland equivalent).
The Vestax looks easy to manage, thanks. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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JPWC Platinum Member
Joined: 29 Oct 2010 Posts: 638 Location: Bay Area, CA
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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I've been using the padKontrol. Works great.
I use 8 pads to run Karma and 8 pads to play drums. and the x-y pad works just also.
The only problem I've experienced; I'll be playing along, getting lost in the music, proceed with hitting Pads 1,2,3 and 4 and then wham I miss the 5th pad and hit the motif XF! I guess I got use to the M3 pads, where all 8 are in a row and not a 4 X 4 matrix.
The velocity works well for my touch, maybe slightly better (for me) than the M3 pads. It's cool seeing the velocity in the display. _________________ Kronos-6, Krome, M3, Radias, KingKorg, microKorg, KP-2, KP-3, KO-1, KO-1 PRO, Karma, microX, monotron, monotribe, PadCONTROL, Wavedrum Mini, Volca Keys, Beats, Bass, Sample, monotron Duo & Delay, microArranger, M1, Wavestation, Volca Sample, Keys, Beats & Bass, MS-20
JD-XA, JD-Xi, Aira (system 1, TB3, TR8, MX-1), Prophet 12, Mopho X4, Jupiter-80, FA-06, D50, CS1x, CZ101, DX200, AN200, analogFOUR, MachineDrum, MonoMachine, Motif XF6, Virus Snow, Nord Lead 2X, OP-1, MFOS, Tenori-on, QY100, QY70, meeblip se, miniBrute, microBrute, Bass Station 2 |
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michelkeijzers Approved Merchant
Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 9113 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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I have a Behringer and want to use this too when I have a Kronos.
I have to check if it works on my M50 but I can't see any problems. _________________
Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see https://www.kronoshaven.com/pcgtools/ |
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JPWC Platinum Member
Joined: 29 Oct 2010 Posts: 638 Location: Bay Area, CA
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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You have to match the Kronos note numbers with the Pad device note numbers, I use C9 and up, and then it does not interfere with normal playing _________________ Kronos-6, Krome, M3, Radias, KingKorg, microKorg, KP-2, KP-3, KO-1, KO-1 PRO, Karma, microX, monotron, monotribe, PadCONTROL, Wavedrum Mini, Volca Keys, Beats, Bass, Sample, monotron Duo & Delay, microArranger, M1, Wavestation, Volca Sample, Keys, Beats & Bass, MS-20
JD-XA, JD-Xi, Aira (system 1, TB3, TR8, MX-1), Prophet 12, Mopho X4, Jupiter-80, FA-06, D50, CS1x, CZ101, DX200, AN200, analogFOUR, MachineDrum, MonoMachine, Motif XF6, Virus Snow, Nord Lead 2X, OP-1, MFOS, Tenori-on, QY100, QY70, meeblip se, miniBrute, microBrute, Bass Station 2 |
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