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RC-IA · Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:19 pm Post subject:

But the kronos OS is 90% (??) from oasys, so bugs have been killed (!!!) for 6 years already

cello · Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:21 pm Post subject:

jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

It's irrelevant anyway, if you don't even have the choice at all and have just made up your mind for alternatives. Laughing

twstone1983 · Junior Member Joined: 31 May 2011 Posts: 89

Yes but the hardware for the most part is brand new. Wasn't there an issue is the M50-61 where they would freeze up due to a capacitor problem? I would imagine by now that has been corrected. Also the software while yes it is from the Oasys, I am sure they had to make some modifications to make it run efficiently on the Intel Atom proc. Just some things to think about.
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theshinenz · Full Member Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 240

Just import one and be done with it dude....

dustymaestro · Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 46

Common sense tells you no business is going to turn down money. If multiple Japanese companies are having issues, its probably something else. What about trade agreements between nations? The import, export taxes and free trade rules are different between different nations. Something to think about.

minnkorg · Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:49 pm Post subject:

Actually irregardless of how stable the Oasys became with the final released update, anytime anything new like the Kronos comes out it is guaranteed to have bugs/issues irregardless of the fact that it is based on the O.

I have fought with a serious Logic Pro 9 flaw for a year until a new version came out and fixed it a few days ago. That is how software is. Sometimes you break things that used to work when you fix things that don't. Even Apple!

Additionally, from the sound of it, the Oasys is built like a tank compared to the Kronos. Some people already have commented on the sliders, knobs, Dial etc....that are different than the O. This obviously had to be done to bring the sell price from $8K+ to $3K+.

I was looking at selling my Motif XS and get the XF. On closer inspection, the metal work feels different along the top front edge where the keyboard meets the sheet metal (the Keybed edge furthest away from the front). So I am having thoughts.

On the Oasys, the metal work has a 45degree edge and then the metal goes vertically down and then folds inwards again adding strength. This a beautiful mechanical engineering job by the Korg designers.

The Kronos seems to have a similiar design except I can't see a very good image on the Korg website to compare to the Oasys. I just hope that to reduce weight, they did not decrease the metal thickness......

I will let the market test the Kronos before I jump on its bandwagon. Two extra engines seems to not be too convincing to dump the O yet.

Besides I think, if Korg Marketing takes the SENSE pill soon, they will offer the new engines to Oasys owners for a price once the Kronos starts shipping in full swing......maybe wishful thinking?????
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cello · Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:15 pm Post subject:

twstone1983 · Junior Member Joined: 31 May 2011 Posts: 89

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=42530

Typically, just because they have stopped manufacturing O's does NOT mean they have stopped supporting them all together. Atleast thats what the post in the above link suggests. Who really knows though. Korg is different form say a software developer such as MS who still supports windows Vista and makes updates for it even though Win 7 has been around a couple years now.
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cello · Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:35 pm Post subject:

kimu · Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:48 pm Post subject:

btw musicstore.de shows kronos in its online catalogue with price on request.
have you tried to call them? usually are very kind and precise in answering...

here in italy no sign of kronos so far after some demos last months

jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

Musicstore Cologne, just like some other resellers, just doesn't have the courage not to show any Kronoi online as long as they can't even name a price. They are totally clueless if you ask them, nevertheless, just like anybody else among the big European resellers.

It was unwillingly comical when they demoed the Kronos during their big reopening days, after moving to a big new venue, and while demoing had to admit they had no idea at all when and at what price they would be able to offer the demoed device. That already caused a lot of pityful headshaking among the visitors.

Others stores are more consequent, and completely right from my view: a synth which doesn't even have a European price tag, does not deserve to appear anywhere in European online stores at all! Without price and availibility, the synth should be regarded as completely non-existent in stores in that region. and only appear in previews. Simple as that.

Just by the way: it really has a strong taste of absurd theatre nearly making me laugh, when I compare this thread and the Bananas availability thread next to it! Cool

Priceless comedy! Laughing

dangerousdave · Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:40 pm Post subject:

jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

And now to read that the first bought Kronos in Germany probably will be a US import from Nova music, while Germans can't even order, makes the Korg chaos perfect.

If someone get's a better price margin by import than by regular local buying, that's already bad enough and a serious indication that structures do not work as they should.

But if you get a Korg in Germany from the US, while in Germany you can't even order or get a price, this certainly takes the absurd to the next level!
Korg is definitely making a laughing stock of themselves.

Total Korg management failure Shocked