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ScoobyDoo555 · Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:14 am Post subject:

I would concur with your thoughts. if lots of people had responded, but as there's only 8 people with issues, it's hardly a world-wide major problem. YET. Wink

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lesfarrington · Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Posts: 24

I OWN A KRONOS. i didnt PLAY ONE IN THE STORE and walk away with a firm opinion. i didnt WATCH A YOUTUBE VIDEO and come to any solid conclusions. I BOUGHT ONE and have had it a week. Mine works and feels GREAT!!! You cant find a synth with this kinda depth ANYWHERE. i have never been a Korg Fan but this is a whole new kind of KORG! they have GROWN UP believe me. the Knob Problems you are reading about are NOT the NORM! all my buttons, sliders and knobs work FINE. SOLID. TIGHT. DONT LISTEN TO THIS GUY! HE DOESNT OWN ONE! Perhaps he should study Theology, Find the ONE TRUE OMNIPOTENT GOD and send a request for this GOD to make him a keyboard that is made out of gold and precious jewels and turns Crappy Compositions into Masterpieces by pushing the UN-SUCK button. your dream synth would cost 20 grand!

jahrome · Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:55 am Post subject:

Its funny to keep reading these posts...and maybe redundant for me to keep replying.

But the design of the data wheel is seriously flawed. You don't use tape to secure anything that will be heavily used. I never had a problem with the Triton. Don't see any thread regarding the data wheel of the M3.

If you barely use your data wheel, you may not notice any problems today. But if you use it like me when doing a lot of sample editing...it is an issue. I say this again because I have two Kronos. I bought each in different countries...but have the same problem with both.

To sum this up: TAPE = BAD DESIGN
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ScoobyDoo555 · Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:54 pm Post subject:

Well, there are certain tapes (not dissimilar to the tape highlighted in the knob-pictures) that are quite resilient to time - I've got some in my K2000 v3.... still going strong......
Taking into account the high-usage of the control surface, that's a different matter, but the principle is still sound....

Let's wait and see how this pans out imho.

Dan

UPDATE FROM Rich F

"Hi everyone,

We understand that a small number of our first Kronos customers have a value dial that can be removed too easily. We are acquiring a supply of newly-designed replacement dials, which will be available for free from your local Korg distributor. If your Kronos has a loose value dial, please do NOT use glue or any other kind of adhesive to attempt to secure it, as this can void your warranty. Please also note that this problem has been fixed for current and future Kronos production.

To find and contact your local Korg distributor, please use this link:
http://www.korg.co.jp/English/Distributors/

Thanks,
-Rich
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rob314159 · Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:59 am Post subject:

I haven't owned much gear, nor played much. My other board is a Yamaha S80. I'm not a professional and the board will be remaining in one place.

So, maybe I don't know any better, but the Kronos seems pretty well built. The VJS seems to be exactly the right amount of looseness to achieve fine control with the ability to maintain position. I haven't attempted to pry off my data wheel, but under normal operation it doesn't appear to have any problems.

The overall appearance/layout looks very clean, even though there are a lot of controls.

The side panels do look like they would attract a lot of dust. That's probably the only negative I have after tinkering with it for about 4 hours.

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Gargamel314 · Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:28 am Post subject:

not everyone uses the data wheel that much. I hardly ever use mine. Maybe since my first workstation was an N364 which didn't even have a data wheel. I'm used to using the +/- buttons, the keypad, and the value slider. considering there are so many ways to enter data, i really don't see what the big deal is. Anywho it says they're addressing it at no cost to customers. What more can anyone ask? I mean, besides inventing time travel and preventing this detrimental catastrophe before it ever happened.

Actually that's not a bad idea... come on Korg, you think you're so clever with all your synth engines and your vector joysticks and SSD streaming and stuff... let's see ya pull off time travel!
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ScoobyDoo555 · Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:59 am Post subject:

+1
It's being sorted - let's leave it there.
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jahrome · Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:06 am Post subject:

drchris · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:10 am Post subject:

I know I'm relatively new here, and that I don't yet even own a Kronos (88 on order), but it appears to me that Korg has issued an official statement here in public about the data wheel and that changes to the current production runs are underway and replacements for current users are being offered.

For now, the problem should be considered "being addressed" and further posts about this subject should really be put on hold. If the replacement knob comes, and is not an adequate solution, this should again become an issue for discussion. But for now it should be dropped.

To those of you that have had problems, we, the community, understand. You are upset. The datawheel fell off. You're even mad. We get it. Now give Korg a chance to make it right and let the issue go for a while while you enjoy your Kronos.