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steering an old M1 with nanoKontrol

 
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Seismic



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:35 am    Post subject: steering an old M1 with nanoKontrol Reply with quote

Hi all, my first post! I joined this forum because I am having a hard time getting a nanoKontrol (mk. 1) to control program parameters on a M1, for realtime sound tweaking.
Does anybody here know if the M1 responds to CC in a useful way?
Oh btw, have read the manual, made no sense to me! And Google dosn't seem to be my friend either
thanks in advance, yours etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:00 pm    Post subject: Re: steering an old M1 with nanoKontrol Reply with quote

Seismic wrote:
Hi all, my first post! I joined this forum because I am having a hard time getting a nanoKontrol (mk. 1) to control program parameters on a M1, for realtime sound tweaking.
Does anybody here know if the M1 responds to CC in a useful way?
Oh btw, have read the manual, made no sense to me! And Google dosn't seem to be my friend either
thanks in advance, yours etc.

Hello Seismic,
Welcome to the forum!
The M1 had a somewhat limited implementation of CC. You're not going to be able to sweep the filter or anything like that.
Midi implementation chart:
http://www.webcoast.com/drevil/korgm1manual/M1Pg135.html
Here's the list of what it responds to:

CC
1 Pitch MG
2 VDF Mod
6 Data Entry (MSB) Most Significant Bit
7 Volume
38 Data Entry (LSB) Least Significant Bit
64 Sustain
96 Data Increment
97 Data Decrement
100 LSB of RPC for Master Tune
101 MSB of RPC for Master Tune
0-101 Sending and receiving Seq. data only

Not much of interest there Sad

Still the M1 is a great sounding old board, I had one 20 years ago.

Cheers, Hanon
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Seismic



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the swift reply!
Yeah I was beginning to suspect as much, having tried to decipher those tables from the manual. Bummer.
I wonder if there is a way to fake it using aftertouch data or whatever. And what is all this sys-ex stuff? I don't suppose that's something you use on the fly... or what?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:05 am    Post subject: CC vs SysEx Reply with quote

Seismic wrote:
Thanks for the swift reply!
Yeah I was beginning to suspect as much, having tried to decipher those tables from the manual. Bummer.
I wonder if there is a way to fake it using aftertouch data or whatever. And what is all this sys-ex stuff? I don't suppose that's something you use on the fly... or what?


The sysex or system exclusive is all of the parameters that go into making a patch. It's a very different structure and data stream than CC or continuous control.
Typically sysex is used to save and load patches, banks, and multi s.
There are several software programs that accept a sysex dump from the instrument, allow you the make and preview edits, then send it back to the instrument when you're done.
The best example that I can think of for the M1 is the SoundDiver program.

Several instruments had hardware based programmers available too. These all worked using system exclusive messages.
The pair that most comes to mind is the Korg M3R and RE1 editor.
http://www.kinneticfx.com/korgmt/m3r.htm

[/ rambling grandpa story]

Cheers, Hanon
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