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MidnightPackage Full Member
Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Posts: 171
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 8:07 pm Post subject: Change Prog/Combi While Drum Track Playing? |
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Is there a way to change the program or combi you are playing, while keeping a single drum track playing? Like some kind of a global drum track that overrides and doesn't change when you change sounds? I can imagine there may be a way to do something like this by setting up a song in the sequencer, but it seems like there should be an easier way.
Yes, I am new to keyboards as sophisticated as this, so I apologize if this is a silly question _________________ Korg Kronos 61, Yamaha P120 88, Roland Alpha Juno 2 61, Boss RC-300 Loopstation, Roland SC55, M-Audio Axiom 61, Novation ReMOTE 25, Boss ME-6, Electro-Voice Raven, Alesis Multimix 8 |
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RonF Platinum Member
Joined: 04 Jul 2002 Posts: 1179 Location: San Diego, CA USA
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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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A program is a self contained thing. Its drum track is a part of the components which make up a program.
A combi is a self contained thing which contains many programs, including drum track.
A seq is similar to the combi...in this regard, with additional editing and recording features.
So the answer is.....no, there is no Global drum track. To do what you want, use a combi. Copy a program or two that you like into an initialized combi...or just surf on one of the combi slots, and change programs at random. Put the drum track you like in one slot....and change programs to play "over it" in other slots. Create a combi just for this purpose...set up your effects the way you like, and just surf away....mix and match.
No way to change complete combis this same way, unless you copy a combi or two or three into a Seq.
Me.....I use a looper for this purpose. Korg KP3 can work nicely for this. Get a drum loop going, sample it onto the KP3 (which is the simplest thing in the world to do, in real time, in perfect timing.....its almost automatic). Now surf the combis or programs on Kronos, play around, sample your noodling's onto another Pad of the KP3. Switch combis, or programs, or other drum tracks, or whatever....and add more. Re-sample the loops into a "mix-down" (on the KP3) to free up the "sample pads". Build it up even more. It works and sounds fantastic! You just keep freeing up "resources" on the Kronos so you can use all of its diverse sonic capabilities (programs, engines, combis, effects, etc) in your composition, all in real time.
This results in some amazing 'ideas" being generated that are in real time, and inspired at random. Then....you can record these loops (individually, or as one stereo file) back to Kronos to its audio tracks to work even further. I have thought for YEARS that a real time audio looper such as KP3 should be built into a workstation keyboard! It opens up the work flow immensely, and really addresses the age old "workstation issues" of polyphony, effects limitations, and mixing and matching various patches. If they can build it into KP3....surely they could put it into KRONOS. (obviously Kronos is a sampler...but its not a real time looper like the immediacy of KP3).
I have several loopers, actually, and can build up immense poly-rhythmic compositions, with outstanding audio quality, all fed from the Kronos and midi synced to the Kronos. Its a great way to compose! _________________ http://soundcloud.com/ronf-3/sets/ronf-music
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MidnightPackage Full Member
Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Posts: 171
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you Ron, I appreciate your help. I suspected this might be the case. I will check out the KP3 and other loopers. That sounds like fun _________________ Korg Kronos 61, Yamaha P120 88, Roland Alpha Juno 2 61, Boss RC-300 Loopstation, Roland SC55, M-Audio Axiom 61, Novation ReMOTE 25, Boss ME-6, Electro-Voice Raven, Alesis Multimix 8 |
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