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McHale

On the EQ page, would it be possible to add a "Global Transpose" function for each individual set list? I have different set lists for different groups I play with and some tune down, some don't. Once in a great while, I forget to transpose... yikes!

-Mc
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phattbuzz · Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:18 pm Post subject:

I've been there, with my main band we do "Vehicle" in the original key of Eb, but some times I play with another guitarist whop plays it in E. I have another group which has quite a few songs that change key two or three times within one song.

I think the best thing to do is use the notes in the set list function, but I've heard the font is pretty small.
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sani · Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:22 pm Post subject:

And how will a global transpose help?
You can still forget by how much does some of your different groups transpose the song!
I was using the RD700GX as my main axe for my shows. Since it is limited in the number of setups (just 100), I used the transpose button instead of creating new setups for the different tunes.
Then it happens that you forget to turn the transpose off on the next setup.
That's yikes multiplied by hundred. Embarassed

I'd rather invest some time and home and prepare the setups/combinations with transpose for the different tunes. No further pushing and thinking on stage. Just load the pcg for respective band.

Chriskk · Senior Member Joined: 10 May 2011 Posts: 349

Why do keyboard players need to transpose (i.e., detune)?

Guitarists/Bassists need to do so because some songs require them to play open strings. On keyboards every note is already there.

EvilDragon · Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:23 pm Post subject:

Try playing solos that Jens Johansson played in Stratovarius (which uses Eb tuning on guitars, hence Jens transposed -1) without transpose and you're my new god.

michelkeijzers · Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:40 pm Post subject:

michelkeijzers · Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 8:41 pm Post subject:

Actually I would more appreciate to have also a transpose per combi. Sometimes I need to transpose it and have to go through all 16 timbres in a combi to change them all equally.
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Chriskk · Senior Member Joined: 10 May 2011 Posts: 349

jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

Chris, you obviously like boasting.

But even IF you are a classically trained master player, your evaluation concerning the transition function in a modern workstation would be of ZERO interest for any modern rock, jazz, r&b or whatnot player. Any of us can choose to transpose whatever way he or she likes, by playing the other key or by using a transpose function.

Get over it: you just don't have to tell any of us how we like keyboards to work when and in which context and for what reason. Your view is nothing but one among many here.

StephenKay · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:49 am Post subject:

I agree with the need for a transpose in Set List, but I don't think a Global one (for the whole set list) is the best way. There should be a transpose PER SLOT that transpose all timbres in a combi or seq (except drums of course), and IMPORTANT: without altering split points. Wink

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McHale · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:00 am Post subject:

I would support transpose per patch. It obviously makes the feature much more flexible.

AND I could learn everything in the key of C and transpose as needed. Smile

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michelkeijzers · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:19 am Post subject:

sani · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:39 am Post subject:

ScoobyDoo555 · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:30 am Post subject:

The only downside with a set-list transpose is if you're using samples in a combi/prog.

They won't get transposed. (especially if using samples in single keyzones) I've got a few songs in setlists that when transferring from Mainstage, I forgot to transpose.

Not a major issue, but it still involves going into the program to change sample tuning.
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DaveBoulden · Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:12 am Post subject:

I'll add my own wish for the set list feature. I'd love to see the long text description that is shown under the program name in each set list entry get it's own tab and be shown in a large font. With this option, you'd be able to make "cheat sheet" notes or reminders about the patch, or have a patch for each song and have reminders about the chord progressions or whatever aide memoires you like. If shown in a large font, this would be easily readable on stage. It's be great if it had basic formatting (bold/underline/TAB/font size change etc..) but at the very least allow carriage returns for some basic formatting of your reminder notes. An onscreen button on either side of the new tab to step forwards or backwards by one setlist slot would be a great addition too.

If you were doing a show with a fixed set-list, imagine what a boon it'd be to be able to step through the songs one by one and have your important reminders right there on screen to guide you.