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michelkeijzers · Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:14 pm Post subject:

Or a new option for the Kronos:

A real Korg Magnifying glass to be attached on the Kronos LCD screen (including optional light).
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Gargamel314 · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:51 pm Post subject:

Broadwave · Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:13 am Post subject:

So, after all that postulating, there was in fact... zilch.

No Kronos beater from Kurzweil or Yamaha, Casio didn't even come close Wink

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aron · Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:14 pm Post subject:

I may be in the minority but I don't think Yamaha has to make a multi-synthesis keyboard. They have already been doing this for a while - from the SY77 to the EX5 to the later cards inside the Motif/S90.

I think they learned a while ago that what they really need to do is just make a keyboard that is well made, has top notch sounds that are useful and looks good.

Yamaha always had nice synth engines, but poor presets. The writing was on the wall long ago, when people were not really editing. I'm not sure much of that has changed - maybe it has, but in any case, let's say that Yamaha comes out with a Motif with 256 to 512 notes polyphony; I think that would really make one big fat sounding keyboard and keep them in the race without having to create some sort of multi-synthesis keyboard.

Not everyone needs analog simulations to be true VA. In addition, it seems like a lot of people think that the old analogs sound much better than simulations.... I'm not that sure it matters to the people that listen to the music.

I think (maybe incorrectly) that if you make a keyboard that has great sounds - give people useful editing operations, lots of polyphony and a easy UI for navigation and you have a winner.
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EXer · Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:53 pm Post subject:

jahrome · Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:41 pm Post subject:

EXer · Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:16 pm Post subject:

Nobody wrote "only". Please read the posts more carefully.

sani · Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:46 pm Post subject:

EXer, you have quoted completely wrong, putting words into my mouth which I didn't say at all. Please look back on page 4 what I actually said.

Vlad_77 · Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:05 pm Post subject:

Hi Aron,

First off I enjoy your posts!

I like what you said about Yamaha not having to make a multi-engine synth. I would add one more point: Yamaha is in the enviable position where Motifs are HIGHLY visible. Even on their promo videos Yamaha states that it is important to their existing user base to have the sounds they are accustomed to. Yamaha states further and quite honestly that each Motif builds on its predecessor. I am not a Yamaha fanboy - in fact I only own one Yamaha: the old TG-33 which IS still fun Smile

Yamaha has a secure place in the industry and I would think that the philosophy of "it if aint broke, don't fix it" applies quite nicely. In magic we have an equally apropos maxim: "don't run if you're not being chased." With Yamaha's position in the music industry, I really would wager that the Kronos ,Fantom G, and Kurz PC3K are of no concern to Yamaha.

It's been interesting to see more and more favorable reactions to Roland's new performance synth. Ironically, there is STILL more discussion of it here than at Roland Clan!

The perceived dark horse, Kurzweil, is the one to watch, but not as a "Kronos killer." I would wager that within a year to two at most, Kurzweil is going to release a monster workstation that has a more intuitive UI and a new set of keymaps. They have already proved that they have the multi-synthesis thing down, but, as a fellow PC3 owner, I would suggest that Kurzweil's power is hampered by the byzantine interface and insanely hard learning curve for deep synthesis programming. Kurzweil is in the best position to answer Kronos. Pardon the pun, but with regard to Kronos and Kurzweil, time will tell.

Ahimsa,
Vlad
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RonF · Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:48 am Post subject:

aron · Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:01 am Post subject:

Ron,

I am sad that Yamaha decided to abandon Physical Modeling as on the VL1. I am also sad that they are giving up on the breath controller and alternate forms of input.

I'm sure I was one of the first people complaining about the lack of the breath controller and I am sure it was a reason why I bought my PC3.

At the same time, I truly believe that most live players just want a keyboard that sounds great with usable programs. The better the presets sound, the more it will be used. I guess Yamaha hit the sweet spot with that. I surely remember when it was not the case.
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RonF · Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:53 pm Post subject:

michelkeijzers · Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:09 pm Post subject:

For me as someone who uses keyboards mainly live, the sound is the most important and after that the ease of making layers and being flexible with controller/programming setup including layering etc.
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