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Sina172
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chilly7
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| Sina172 wrote: | | chilly7 wrote: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afkYRJU0Dlw
this is the best headphones in the world, not one of the best but just the best headphones in the world 
p.s. i cannot aford them right now but i am pretty shure then late i am going to end up with them or what ever thay have as top of the line... |
I couldn't agree more! 
I have heard Stax headphones before and they are THE BEST headphones (Earspeakers, more rather) I have ever heard, right next to the Orpheus which I'm looking for as we speak.
I LOVED the SR-007mkII's and I am DEFINITELY getting the complete system with a Stax headphone amp.
This is the first time I'm hearing about the SR-009's.
I don't take reviews seriously, but this guy seems to know his stuff and following his advice and opinion, going wrong with what he says is VERY unlikely, it seems.
Having said that, I've heard of Woo Audio, but NOT the flagship amp. And that thing is INSANE! 
I might have to get the SR-009's and the Woo Audio Amp as well. But we'll see. I need to hear them first.
And that Woo Audio amp might be what I'll have to get with the SR-009's to complete my system once I hear them together.
I also find it hard to believe that the 009's would be better than the Orpheus, then again, I haven't heard the 009's so this is really peaking my curiosity to enormous heights. The Orpheus, however, he is spot on about. They are THE BEST headphones. Period. And they were $15,000 new. So to hear the SR-009 to be even better at a lower price point makes me skeptical, yet VERY excited. 
Doesn't stop me from getting the SR-007mkII's or the Orpheus, though.
Sina |
that is really cool that u can afford thouse headpones.
so if u will get them, just give us review.
I also wounder how thay will sound compare to my Sennheizrer HD800 if u have heared thouse.
p.s. i don't know how about u but if i were u, i have looked at STAX web site and thay have 2 headpones amplifiers with the same build quality:
a tube and solid state amp, i guess a tube amp will sound more warmer and less flat while solid state shoud give u the exect sound which comes from the recording. so if i was u i would get solid state amp 
good luck
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Sina172
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chilly7
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| Sina172 wrote: | | chilly7 wrote: | | Sina172 wrote: | | chilly7 wrote: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afkYRJU0Dlw
this is the best headphones in the world, not one of the best but just the best headphones in the world
p.s. i cannot aford them right now but i am pretty shure then late i am going to end up with them or what ever thay have as top of the line... |
I couldn't agree more!
I have heard Stax headphones before and they are THE BEST headphones (Earspeakers, more rather) I have ever heard, right next to the Orpheus which I'm looking for as we speak.
I LOVED the SR-007mkII's and I am DEFINITELY getting the complete system with a Stax headphone amp.
This is the first time I'm hearing about the SR-009's.
I don't take reviews seriously, but this guy seems to know his stuff and following his advice and opinion, going wrong with what he says is VERY unlikely, it seems.
Having said that, I've heard of Woo Audio, but NOT the flagship amp. And that thing is INSANE!
I might have to get the SR-009's and the Woo Audio Amp as well. But we'll see. I need to hear them first.
And that Woo Audio amp might be what I'll have to get with the SR-009's to complete my system once I hear them together.
I also find it hard to believe that the 009's would be better than the Orpheus, then again, I haven't heard the 009's so this is really peaking my curiosity to enormous heights. The Orpheus, however, he is spot on about. They are THE BEST headphones. Period. And they were $15,000 new. So to hear the SR-009 to be even better at a lower price point makes me skeptical, yet VERY excited.
Doesn't stop me from getting the SR-007mkII's or the Orpheus, though.
Sina |
that is really cool that u can afford thouse headpones.
so if u will get them, just give us review.
I also wounder how thay will sound compare to my Sennheizrer HD800 if u have heared thouse.
p.s. i don't know how about u but if i were u, i have looked at STAX web site and thay have 2 headpones amplifiers with the same build quality:
a tube and solid state amp, i guess a tube amp will sound more warmer and less flat while solid state shoud give u the exect sound which comes from the recording. so if i was u i would get solid state amp
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I'm actually getting BOTH the Solid State and the Tube system as I've heard both and they each have their own purpose. I know a guy here in Torrance who's an authorized Stax headphones dealer for the entire line.
When I audition the SR-009, and I decide to go for it, I'm getting the Woo Audio Headphone Amp.
I use the SPL Phonitor with my HD-800's and Grace m902 and m903 for my other pairs.
On a side note, the Shure SRH-840's and 940's are SO RIDICULOUSLY amazing that I can plug them directly into my OASYS and get a dead-accurate sound that translates VERY well in a consumer stereo system and have it sound perfect.
And the funny thing is: I used to say the same thing about my Sony MDR-7509/7509HD, V900/V900HD's, and the Z900/Z900HD's Japanese versions of the V900's.
The Sennheisers are the ULTIMATE Mastering headphones, because of it's audiophile quality that the Shure's don't have. They sound amazing, don't get me wrong, but they lack the audiophile sound.
Kind of like a Hyundai Genesis vs a BMW 760Li where the Hyundai as gorgeous of a car it as and as beautifully as it drives lacks the luxury, performance and power of the BMW 760Li. You know what I'm saying here?
And I drive a BMW 760Li so I have the ultimate car I could EVER ask for! And those are my Sennheiser HD-800 equivalent.
My everyday car, however is the Hyundai Genesis, because of the way it looks and drives. And for $45K it's EVERY bit as good as a Mercedes S550, for 1/3 of the cost.
But that's another topic. 
I can't even BEGIN to imagine how freakin' AMAZING the Stax are gonna be in comparison to the Sennheisers once I get them! WOW!
I'll let you know once I'm ready, and when I get the 3 systems, I'll give you my review of them here with KRONOS as the source.
Sina |
That is cool
good luck
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Bertotti
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| Why do I feel like I just saw a don't do drugs commercial after reading this thread? |
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maphill
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| EvilDragon wrote: | Hm, let's compare frequency responses:
Shure SRH-840:
BeyerDynamic DT-880 Pro (250 Ohm):
Winner: BeyerDynamic. It's more neutral and doesn't have that nasty bump around 100 Hz. |
While bringing data in is always a good thing, headphones are a peculiar beast. At my former job, I had headphone recordings from a dummy head (don't remember but I think is was the Neumann KU-100) used to assess competitors headphones and tune our own.
It turns out that different dummy heads read differently, and (here's the kicker), a flat response is not the same as a "flat system". I believe it is due to HRTF effects and small volume (standing wave) issues associated with the headphone/ear system, but the most accurate response is not a flat one.
Go to: http://www.neumann.com/?lang=en&id=current_microphones&cid=ku100_data and look at the response of the head. It's interesting. And headphone.com may or may not compensate for the response of the head they use to measure (they may not even use the head).
When I A/B'd the headphones I was tuning with a corrected system, the most similar sound I could get was with a resulting curve that had a nearly constant decrease in (log/log) response toward higher frequencies. Simply: To sound "flat", the lows had to be higher than the mids, which had to be higher than the highs. Again, I think this has to due with head-effects and Free-field vs. not.
Just something to keep in mind with headphones.
Mark
(Audio DSP Engineer)
P.S. We had a 512-band linear phase EQ and I tuned the EQ until I thought it sounded like the best headphones I'd ever heard. Then marketing said, "More bass". (They wanted a tune for gaming headphones, but still, the result was not as good).
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runningman67
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michelkeijzers
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I have a sennheiser HD515 which I like, but it's semi open. Most semi opens seem to be better inquality but there should not be background noise since you hear it too.
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rderderian
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I want a good headphone but don't want to spend hundreds let along a thousand.
What is wrong with the Sennheiser HD 280 Pro for only $99. These seem to be high quality headphones with a low price. |
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Sina172
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gjvti
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From my experience I can say - if you are going to use headphones to mix or master - flatter frequency response curve is surely better (actually same applies to monitors). If you are going to use headphones for maximum listening pleasure - no one will tell you which model to buy - you just go to shop and listen to find out what you like, what sounds pleasant to you ears.
I tested 280HD - was not impressive at all. 380HD were better but all Sennheiser headphones I tested suffered from bad ergonomics - I felt my head squeezed like with c-clamp - hard to imagine that I could use them for more than 1/2 hour. Some AKG models we had at office were not bad, but somehow they didn't draw my attention. Beyerdynamic DT 770 and DT 990 sound good and clean - but I find their sound too soft - maybe more appropriate for jazz and classics not for electronic music. Currently I have DT 880 250 Ohm variation and I find them near excellent. Maybe there is some slight gap in frequency curve where I'd love to hear powerful snares, but generally I can agree that DT 880 sounds pretty smooth and clear. Also I think Beyerdynamic headphones have excellent ergonomics and design. I can listen to them for many hours and I absolutely love their unique soft ear pads. They are like from other planet compared to weak leather imitation of other brand headphones. I even managed to fit those Beyerdynamic soft pads (they are available separately too) on my casual Philips bluetooth headset for greater comfort  |
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Nippess
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Thanks for all your thoughts on this topic.
Looking further into the Beyer DT800 option, they do options of 32ohms and 250 ohms; as the Kronos 61 output is 33ohms, am I right in thinking the sound will be better matched with the 32ohms phones?
I have managed to get a pair of Bose AD2Es on sale or return from a local specialist shop (nice man, very trusting!!) These are very light and comfy to wear, certainly better than my old Technics phones in sound quality. Having to decide if DT800s will have more bass but without overpowering the treble sounds if playing layers on keyboard. I do like to "feel" the bass, yet the Bose don't do this for me. The same model "on ear" equivalent overpower the other sounds with bass, although it sounds better to me......I'm fussy..... Main prob. I suppose is I cannot find anywhere I can try the Beyers!
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gjvti
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| just one more a note - DT 880 are semi open headphones and consequently not very suitable when recording vocals/acoustic instruments |
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kron
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:04 am Post subject: |
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I have always HATED the 770's, but the 880's aren't bad. Just goes to show how subjective this topic really is.etter!
Sina |
Sina, you have also mentioned in a subsequent post that you hated HD280Pro as well.
Would you mind elaborating on this? These are considered to be good for mixing. I use 770 Pro 250 Ohm version and like them, although I haven't tried anything else so far. If there is a reason to like something else (to an extent that one could hate these), I will buy those.. Would love to hear some real life experience as most of the reviews on the forums / youtube are useless. |
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kron
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Hi all,
While we are still on the topic, are there any recommendations for closed ended / noise cancelling headphones (high quality for mixing purpose)? I currently do also own Bose QC3 and while they are good for general purpose listening, they are not good for hearing direct out form keyboard phone out or mixing.. |
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