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PCG TOOLS
This FREE Windows PC (or Mac with VMWare Fusion) application can read Korg PCG and SNG files from the following Korg workstation models:
- Korg Kronos (X)
- Korg Oasys
- Korg Krome
- Korg M3 (including Radias board)
- Korg M50
- Korg Triton Extreme * (including MOSS board)
- Korg Triton Classic *
- Korg Triton Rack*
- Korg Triton Studio*
- Korg Triton LE*
- Korg TR
- Korg Karma*
- Korg Trinity V1, V2, V3 (including Solo/Moss board)
- Korg Trinity
- Korg TR-Rack
* On some Triton models the bank names can be a bit different.

The application is a mix of a librarian, list generator to create all kinds of useful lists and a limited editor.

HOME PAGE
http://pcgtools.mkspace.nl

LINKS
Manual:
http://pcgtools.mkspace.nl/Manual.pdf

PCG Tools forum at KorgForums:
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=63765

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Mail contact:
michelkeijzers@hotmail.com

HOW TO RECEIVE THE APP
Subscribe to the newsletter of PCG Tools; you will get instructions by email how to download PCG Tools for free including updates.
http://eepurl.com/u5Hk5

OPERATING SYSTEMS
This application only works on Windows XP SP3 or higher, or on non Windows systems with a Windows emulator. For more info see the manual.

FUTURE
If you have additions you would like I can consider them.
See also the Future Ideas on the post below.

CODE
The code is written in C#. For now I don't send the source code, due to the fact it could be used for commercial reasons by others. All code is copyright protected.
None of my code is allowed to be used in commercial software, but can be requested for non commercial usage.
When I see good/serious reasons why someone would use the code I will think about it (like serious plans to do some conversion, nice addition or porting to another platform).

DISCLAIMER
I am not responsible for corrupt PCGs. Therefore, always make a backup first and test regularly. I do not own all models so testing has been very limited.

I am not responsible for the content of the PCGs being used with the application.

COPYRIGHT
PCG Tools is a free application, however the executable and the source code may never be used for commercial reasons.
Also the application may not be spread except by the developer. It may not be uploaded to web sites, peer to peer networks, spread by email or by other means without permission of the developer.

The reason for this, is that the developer maintains a list of people who are using PCG Tools and when a new update is available, it will be send to everybody on this update list, to make sure everybody always receives the latest version.

This application is not affiliated by Korg, so requests, bugs, wishes, questions etc. should be directed to michel.keijzers@hotmail or being posted on the main PCG Tools thread (this thread).
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Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see http://pcgtools.mkspace.nl

michelkeijzers · Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:36 pm Post subject: Versions

The history list is part of the manual from version 1.6.
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Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see http://pcgtools.mkspace.nl

michelkeijzers · Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:37 pm Post subject: Installation and How to Start

(FOR FUTURE USAGE)
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BasariStudios · Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:37 pm Post subject:

I dont know why there is no X/DELETE Option, i will ask some of the Mods
or if they see this to Delete this post.
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michelkeijzers · Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:37 pm Post subject: Future ideas

The wish list is removed and will be part of the manual from version 1.6.
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Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see http://pcgtools.mkspace.nl

michelkeijzers · Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:39 pm Post subject: Known Issues List

The known issue list will be part of the manual from version 1.6.
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michelkeijzers · Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:39 pm Post subject:

FOR FUTURE USAGE
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robbinhood · Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:46 pm Post subject:

(for future purposes)
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Current gear: Korg KRONOS 61, Hackintosh w/ i7 + 16G RAM, MOTU 828 MKIII Firewire Interface, Rhodes MKI

Past gear: Korg Triton Extreme 61&76 (maxed), Korg Radias, Kurzweil Micropiano, Korg Triton classic ProX, Korg karma, M Audio Key station + logic, korg KMX-122, Tascam MM-1, Korg DRV-2000

michelkeijzers · Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:12 pm Post subject:

Basaristudios: no problem at all ... it's good that you are keeping a look on (strange) messages in the forum. I also with there was a way to insert a message.

Update report: currently I'm busy with making support for the Korg Triton Extreme. It's for selfish reasons lol ... since I have that one myself. But of course I will make it public when ready.

I will probably have limited time the next 3 weeks occasionaly (vacation/having visits from abroad) but in a month or a bit more I hope to have support for
- Korg Kronos (already finished)
- Korg Oasys (already finished)
- Korg Triton Extreme (busy with it and looking good)
- Korg Triton Studio (will not be difficult after the TEX support)
- Korg Triton LE (idem)
- Korg Triton (idem)
- Korg Triton Rack (idem
- Korg Karma v1/v2 (probably also not difficult)
- Korg M50 (will be more work, but I have one myself so that helps)
- Korg M3 (hopefully not too difficult after finishing the M50).

After this it will be time for new features.

Keep you posted and have a good time,

Michel
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Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see http://pcgtools.mkspace.nl

McHale · Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:06 pm Post subject:

Sounds great! I can test on the Triton, M50, M3, and Kronos...
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Current Korg Gear: KRONOS 88 (4GB), M50-73 (PS mod), RADIAS-73, Electribe MX, Triton Pro (MOSS, SCSI, CF, 64MB RAM), DVP-1, MEX-8000, MR-1, KAOSSilator, nanoKey, nanoKontrol, nanoPad 2, 3x DS1H, 7x PS1, FC7 (yes Korg, NOT Yamaha).

michelkeijzers · Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:03 pm Post subject:

Thanks very much ... I will do tests on my Triton Extreme and M50 first, for the Triton and M3 I can use any help.
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Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see http://pcgtools.mkspace.nl

michelkeijzers · Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:50 am Post subject: permofryed

permofryed made me aware of some (partial) Kronos files that could not be read by my app, thanks for that.

Also I want to make some improvements in the user interface and a manual. Because I have visit and vacation during the next weeks I have very limited time. but I promise to spend some time to make fixes and improvements available within about 4 weeks from now.

If people encounter problems please let me know and I will address them.
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Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see http://pcgtools.mkspace.nl

michelkeijzers · Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:52 am Post subject:

I have a very simple idea to check if patches are more or less the same: by checking the (byte) content of one program to another I might add a feature to find identical or more or less identical patches in a PCG. Would anybody be interested in this?

Con: of course it matters a lot if a waveform changes or just a controller value.
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Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see http://pcgtools.mkspace.nl

SanderXpander · Platinum Member Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 2224

It would be awesome to quickly see if patches are "similar", but I'm afraid you're right and would need a much more sophisticated check for that to work with usable results. Even if you check if the waveforms used are the same, the envelopes and filters could make a huge difference, and then again some waveforms are quite similar so having different waveforms doesn't mean the patches will sound very different.

In the end, the Korg-created categories work quite well, and otherwise some reorganizing by ear.

michelkeijzers · Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:10 am Post subject:

Sander, yes you are completely right in that.

In that case, I think I will stick to check if there are really identical patches (programs/combis) in a PCG. And I could add some value that can be filled in to allow how many bytes a patch may differ to be shown.

E.g.:

0 difference
I-A000 Piano 1
I-G123 Piano X
I-G126 Copy of Piano X

0 difference
I-B123 Brass
I-G123 Brass m

1 difference
I-G054 Guitar
U-G123 Guitar Changed

...

When there are differences, people can themself check how similar they really are by listening.

But this way you can find easily patches that are only changed in a few values, and thus probably be used for moderating by either yourself or others.
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Developer of the free PCG file managing application for most Korg workstations: PCG Tools, see http://pcgtools.mkspace.nl