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RonF
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| jimknopf wrote: | It becomes quite obvious that I can't help any of you to get even the most simple forum basics clear. The topic of a forum is defined by title, not by weekly chatter subject polls. 
I was willing to adress your anger directed at me directly here, but it is obviously becoming pretty pointless. |
Actually, yes you can help me learn those "basics"....which is why I don't understand, by your own teachings, why the Kronos vs Komplete topic is not being attacked by you with the same vigor?
"Weekly chatter subject polls"? I don't know what you mean there. I don't think any of the threads in question were polls.....otherwise, I don't get it.
So let me understand your "basic" point clearly ......just because someone doesn't agree with you....it becomes pointless? Gee...thats a healthy and mature attitude! Its sort of exactly like what you did IN the very threads you've now attacked.....you engaged in the discussion, and as soon as someone didn't bow to YOUR opinion, then you deemed the thread as pointless. You even go so far as to create your own "Have fun with Kronos" thread, where you say goodbye to everyone because its just so painful and a waste of your time to be around here due to a few conflicts you have with a couple of threads. That's how you Roll, Jim. I've watched it now several times. IMO....straight up....I think you should MAN UP, bro. We can agree to disagree. I can still respect your opinion, if you can respect mine. We can debate like two men, and resolve it like two adults. But that's not how you Roll, over and over again. You don't see me taking my ball and running home to Mommy. Of course 3 days after your big goodbye...you're back in here singing from the hilltops until you get your way. All in all....very impressive way you've handled yourself.
If you want....PM me and we can put an end to this..... I don't have anything against you, Jim. I even posted kind words IN your "goodbye" thread. I've bent over backwards to try to make nice with you, and to honor your wishes about this whole thing. I don't see you doing anything to reciprocate, but being arrogant. Fine with me....but you don't intimidate me at all.
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jimknopf
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Ron, I don't have anything against you either.
I just happen to disagree in a certain case, and would like to stop arguing about that now. Nuff said...
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RonF
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| Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed....nuff said....
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Randelph
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:25 am Post subject: |
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RonF wrote:
| Quote: | So let me understand your "basic" point clearly ......just because someone doesn't agree with you....it becomes pointless? Gee...thats a healthy and mature attitude! Its sort of exactly like what you did IN the very threads you've now attacked.....you engaged in the discussion, and as soon as someone didn't bow to YOUR opinion, then you deemed the thread as pointless.
You even go so far as to create your own "Have fun with Kronos" thread, where you say goodbye to everyone because its just so painful and a waste of your time to be around here due to a few conflicts you have with a couple of threads. That's how you Roll, Jim. I've watched it now several times. IMO....straight up....I think you should MAN UP, bro. We can agree to disagree. I can still respect your opinion, if you can respect mine. We can debate like two men, and resolve it like two adults. But that's not how you Roll, over and over again. You don't see me taking my ball and running home to Mommy. Of course 3 days after your big goodbye...you're back in here singing from the hilltops until you get your way. All in all....very impressive way you've handled yourself. |
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What's funny ridiculous about this conversation is I don't even care anymore. Ron and Bruce gave me a good overview of the JP-80, and I'm not that invested in learning more- they spoke very well.
But this is the larger point- many of you work with softsynths and other keyboards as well- does that get banned?
And the larger point that because a few forum members are super loud in their opinions/demands, that they dominate the discussion/decisions.
But I've had about my fill of all this. I haven't heard back from Sharp about posting a poll, so I guess my power in also protesting strenuously is going nowhere. I am glad at the moment that this is in an obscure part of the forum so that we're not polluting the main discussions with this pointless excerise in futility.
Seriously Jim get a grip- you have a right to your opinion but not to belittle and completely ignore other opinions (as in, they're not my opinions/needs, so they're not valid).
Randy
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Chriskk
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:43 am Post subject: |
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And the larger point that because a few forum members are super loud in their opinions/demands, that they dominate the discussion/decisions.
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My first professional synth was an 01/Wfd that I bought in 1992. I still have it and love it. I wasn't interested in the Trinity and Triton because of their silver color. When the Kronos was announced, I wanted one. I won't buy one till I see the editor in action in person because I cannot comfortably work with the screen. I wanted to know more about the K in the meantime, found this forum and visited the K forum frequently.
I got gradually tired of a few loud members' self-centered, dichotomous views. I thought a keyboard forum would be a more mature place than a guitar forum. Boy, was I wrong. You'd be hard-pressed to find that kind of black or white perspective at a guitar forum where thousands of teenager Slash or Yngwie wannabes hang around. |
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X-Trade
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| Randelph wrote: |
But this is the larger point- many of you work with softsynths and other keyboards as well- does that get banned? |
Nothing is banned. No one is saying you can't talk about it. It's just been moved to a more appropriate section.
Just because this section is at the bottom of the listing, it's actually far more active than the 10 or so boards above it in the listings..
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PinkFloydDudi
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Stupidity comes in many forms.
If you are discussing the Roland JP-80, do it in a non-Korg-Kronos forum. This is a very simple organizational fix.
My support easily and clearly lies with Sharp on this one.
I am thinking if some of you were given 3 things: Apple, Banana, toy car....that a bunch couldn't figure out which doesn't belong.
Threads in a "Korg Kronos" forum should be about the kronos. Trying to mask the true intent by using a title which includes "korg kronos" does nothing in regards to the true intent - which as you may foolishly deny, was most definitely to discuss the JP-80. |
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GregC
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Randelph wrote: | RonF wrote:
| Quote: | So let me understand your "basic" point clearly ......just because someone doesn't agree with you....it becomes pointless? Gee...thats a healthy and mature attitude! Its sort of exactly like what you did IN the very threads you've now attacked.....you engaged in the discussion, and as soon as someone didn't bow to YOUR opinion, then you deemed the thread as pointless.
You even go so far as to create your own "Have fun with Kronos" thread, where you say goodbye to everyone because its just so painful and a waste of your time to be around here due to a few conflicts you have with a couple of threads. That's how you Roll, Jim. I've watched it now several times. IMO....straight up....I think you should MAN UP, bro. We can agree to disagree. I can still respect your opinion, if you can respect mine. We can debate like two men, and resolve it like two adults. But that's not how you Roll, over and over again. You don't see me taking my ball and running home to Mommy. Of course 3 days after your big goodbye...you're back in here singing from the hilltops until you get your way. All in all....very impressive way you've handled yourself. |
+1
What's funny ridiculous about this conversation is I don't even care anymore. Ron and Bruce gave me a good overview of the JP-80, and I'm not that invested in learning more- they spoke very well.
But this is the larger point- many of you work with softsynths and other keyboards as well- does that get banned?
And the larger point that because a few forum members are super loud in their opinions/demands, that they dominate the discussion/decisions.
But I've had about my fill of all this. I haven't heard back from Sharp about posting a poll, so I guess my power in also protesting strenuously is going nowhere. I am glad at the moment that this is in an obscure part of the forum so that we're not polluting the main discussions with this pointless excerise in futility.
Randy |
Wah-wah- WAHHhhhh
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PinkFloydDudi
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Posting a poll? LOL!!
What gave you the idea that this was a democracy in the first place?
If I put up a forum called "Chat about fruit"...and in that forum there are many conversations about different types of fruits...do you think a poll "Should we allow talk about cars?" has any relevance or validity?
Your JP-80 stuff got moved (correctly so)...get over it. |
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RonF
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| PinkFloydDudi wrote: | Stupidity comes in many forms.
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So does ignorance!
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Sharp
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I haven't heard back from Sharp about posting a poll, so I guess my power in also protesting strenuously is going nowhere |
I'm sorry but it's not open to debate. It's pure logic to move the threads to the correct part of the forum.
Regards
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madbeatzyo111
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| PinkFloydDudi wrote: | Stupidity comes in many forms.
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A little uncalled for Pink. The issue is not that the threads shouldn't have been moved, but WHY and WHEN they were moved. The timing of it strongly suggests that it occurred not because it was an inappropriate topic for the Kronos forum--otherwise it would have been moved after the first post, not after 13 pages--but because of the undue influence of one particular forum member.
However, I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt. Maybe the mods were about to move the threads anyway, coincidentally at exactly the same time this one particular forum member started complaining. Maybe the fact that this person is a platinum member with many valuable contributions to KF (and Korg) who threatened to leave the forum had nothing to do with it.
Then again, this kind of thing happens all the time in life--work, family, politics, etc. So why not here? What makes KF any better? The answer is nothing...now. |
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Sharp
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Hi madbeatzyo111
My 2 cents.... you are seriously over thinking all this. The threads were moved because I decided they have no place in the KRONOS section when I read through the content posted.
The end...!!!!
How many more times do I have to say this ?
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Randelph
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Sharp wrote: | | Quote: | | I haven't heard back from Sharp about posting a poll, so I guess my power in also protesting strenuously is going nowhere |
I'm sorry but it's not open to debate. It's pure logic to move the threads to the correct part of the forum.
Regards
Sharp |
Sharp,
Thanks for letting me know.
Randy
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RonF
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| Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Guys.....like most things in life...there are two points of view on just about any topic. You don't always (can't always) see or agree with the other side. But you CAN respect it. Whatever side you may agree with here.....its over. Everyone has had the chance to vent and voice their point of view...and you know what....you can respect both positions....and hopefully from the discussion grows new understanding going forward for all.
At the end of the day...Sharp made a decision. Being a Mod can be a thankless job....because you cannot please everyone all the time, and you sometimes just have to make a decision.
He made his decision, and its done. I applaud that. We all should. And we should be happy to have a guy like Sharp as our Mod who can think for himself with some balls and do what he thinks is best. Nothing wishy washy about it....Done!
Lessons learned....relationships developed......awareness is power.
Peace.
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