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aron Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2011 Posts: 1548 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:51 pm Post subject: Problem with triggering of filter cutoff with Breath Control |
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I am having a weird problem with the AL-1 with regards to the breath controller. I am using it to modulate the filter cutoff and amplitude. What happens is that when I play a quick passage, I hear the filter open up as if I had velocity set to cutoff and I was striking the key hard. However if I just send a continuous breath control signal and then repeatedly strike the key harder or softer, I don't hear any change (I don't have velocity modulating the cutoff as far as I know).
Now, I know the odds of people using the breath controller are low - but there are also others using a WX or other device. Just wondering if anyone has heard this.
I don't think it occurs with the MS-20. I'm still working on a breath controlled patch for that.
The positive is that the Kronos responds very quickly to breath control. Faster than any MIDI device I have owned. It sounds great too. _________________ Korg Kronos, RD-88, Yamaha VL1, Deep Mind 6, Korg Kross, author of unrealBook for iPad. |
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burningbusch Approved Merchant
Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 1203 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Aron, send me the patch and I'll take a look at it and test it. I can also send you some of my BC programs.
BTW, I would use the AMS Mixer -> Smoothing to give you a smoother response vs. straight #02.
Busch. |
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aron Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2011 Posts: 1548 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks I will get it sent in the next day or so. Will PM when it's up. _________________ Korg Kronos, RD-88, Yamaha VL1, Deep Mind 6, Korg Kross, author of unrealBook for iPad. |
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danatkorg Product Manager, Korg R&D
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 4204 Location: California, USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:57 am Post subject: Re: Problem with triggering of filter cutoff with Breath Con |
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aron wrote: | I am having a weird problem with the AL-1 with regards to the breath controller. I am using it to modulate the filter cutoff and amplitude. What happens is that when I play a quick passage, I hear the filter open up as if I had velocity set to cutoff and I was striking the key hard. However if I just send a continuous breath control signal and then repeatedly strike the key harder or softer, I don't hear any change (I don't have velocity modulating the cutoff as far as I know). |
Just to check - what about velocity modulating filter envelope amount?
Note that JS -Y (joystick down) sends CC#02 as well (the normal breath controller CC). Does the same thing happen if you use JS -Y?
aron wrote: | The positive is that the Kronos responds very quickly to breath control. Faster than any MIDI device I have owned. It sounds great too. |
- Dan _________________ Dan Phillips
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aron Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2011 Posts: 1548 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:25 am Post subject: |
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Dan,
I believe I checked that. I will send the program to Busch tomorrow. I am using the vector joystick 02 as far as I know. I will check tomorrow. One thing I did not check is some problem with the Anatek wind machine. _________________ Korg Kronos, RD-88, Yamaha VL1, Deep Mind 6, Korg Kross, author of unrealBook for iPad. |
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aron Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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OK here it is.
If you listen to this sample, I am blowing softly, but when I play the notes starting from 10 sec, the top note is soft, then the subsequent notes are much louder due to the filter opening up. AFAIK I am not trying to blow any harder - just keeping the same breath control.
Example of problem
Here's the patch - at program 44:
PCG Bank for breath control
Finally, here is an example of how the patch sounds:
Kronos with BC control
Here are my screen settings:
_________________ Korg Kronos, RD-88, Yamaha VL1, Deep Mind 6, Korg Kross, author of unrealBook for iPad. |
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danatkorg Product Manager, Korg R&D
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 4204 Location: California, USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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EG3 is assigned as AMS2 for the filter cutoff. Could that be contributing?
- Dan _________________ Dan Phillips
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aron Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Jan 2011 Posts: 1548 Location: Hawaii
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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THAT was IT! Thank you!
I like the effect a little, it makes the program a little more alive.
KILLER SYNTH!
Aron _________________ Korg Kronos, RD-88, Yamaha VL1, Deep Mind 6, Korg Kross, author of unrealBook for iPad. |
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