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dani_korg · Full Member Joined: 10 Jan 2007 Posts: 115 Location: spain

Korg Kronos demo - Dan "Polymoog" Stesco - M&C Musical Instruments

http://youtu.be/9JCCD677aPI

Ksynth · Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:43 pm Post subject:

Great stuff by Dan Stesco.

Can't wait to hear his Kronos sounds. The M3 work he did was excellent.

Note the use of the Cue List and SST

EvilDragon · Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:54 pm Post subject:

Very good. Excellent paddage.

That distorted guitar is the only sore spot. Korg just doesn't bode well with that, not only in Kronos. Besides that, while the guy has some very nice chops, the fast guitar lead lines were played with too much smearing between the notes, which made the whole thing even more unrealistic.

But then again, I've yet to hear a realistic distorted guitar from any workstation. Roland has it a bit better, but synthiness is still way obvious.

aprilsbonfire · Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Posts: 28 Location: Sweden

Very Nice done..Is it you playing?
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BergerS · Joined: 18 Jun 2011 Posts: 20

They say "A picture is worth a thousand words", same goes for one good demo!
Why did we have to put out with so many marketing BS and the same boring demos of the same sounds, instead of getting a chance to hear some demos like this one?

Kronos is a new instrument so I guess this guy didn't have much time to build these sounds and performances, yet, he was able to make the instruments really shine at its strong aspects.

How much time did Korg employees have with the instrument, and were not able to get such an impressive demo like this one?

My point is, Kronos until now was a potential of features which had to compete with some very strong rivals already making a name for themselves in the market.
Now it is starting to fulfill that potential as you see what talented musicians can make it do in a short time.

I'm impressed!

michelkeijzers · Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:24 pm Post subject:

Very good, and I like the fact that really covers are played so you can hear not 'produced purely for Kronos' music.
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jamsire · Full Member Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 220

And I'm a shredder.

I just loved - it.

phattbuzz · Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:54 am Post subject:

I thought the guitar part was really good too.

It seams that anytime there's a lead guitar patch on a synthesizer they always go for the shredding/metal type. Any other good guitar lead sounds in the Kronos that aren't like that?
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EvilDragon · Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:51 am Post subject:

That guitar? Good? Have you forgotten how an actual electric guitar sounds? :/

This is sounding synthy above anything.

aron · Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:55 am Post subject:

I like synthy shredding guitar-like sounds! Laughing

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EvilDragon · Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:00 am Post subject:

Well I don't. Confused

GregC · Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:14 am Post subject:

EvilDragon · Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:57 am Post subject:

No. YOU don't care. Don't generalize to "everyone" when it's rather obvious it's just you disliking anything and everything that I write.

It's 2012 almost. THIS is how a guitar should sound on any workstation, but it doesn't. Korg should get on with the program regarding these kinds of sounds, if they even mean to include them on their products propertly.

Once again, the paddage and synth sounds are sounding awesome. But not everything on Kronos sounds awesome, and that's a fact. There is no perfect board.

jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

I like guitar shredding as well, on guitar or keyboard. You just won't use it too often, besides having some fun here and now, in real play. Wink

Else I completely agree with EvilDragon concerning sound.
The guitar sound in the demo was better than what I heard so far on the Kronos, and if it is a custom patch, I must have overlooked it.

BUT: it is still a muddy, oldfashioned keyboard(!) lead guitar sound from the 80s or 90s and miles away from anything I would use, even just for arranging.

The link above is spot on how modern guitar patches in a workstation should sound. And if you don't get the same, you should at least try to come close.

Orange tree also provides the by far best, punchy Jaco bass I know - again not just the muddy, mellow stereotype most use, but a really bass really playable and delivering Jaco dynamics even in keyboard play. It's one of the favorite basses on my computer, even compared with the fine Trillian basses.
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BergerS · Joined: 18 Jun 2011 Posts: 20

Putting the Guitar sounds aside (I believe there is is a separate thread for this),
I think the Jean Michel Jarre piece was brilliant!

I think young Jean Michel Jarre used walls of racks and miles of patch cords, to conceive this piece in the 70's, and now it all fits in one "Performance" of one keyboard and it sounds just as good!

I think keyboards evolved ...