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[Slovenec]

I'm looking at a Kronos for live playing but don't want yet another 61 note keyboard which is so limiting for playing piano and EP. I also don't want a weighted action due to the ridiculous weight and I hate playing organ on a weighted action.

Why don't Korg release a 73 key unweighted version of the Kronos to go along with the other 3 versions using the same keyboard action as the 61 key model? It would be much easier to take to gigs.

I've got an old (but awesome!) Ensoniq TS12 and this is a complete pig when it comes to weight and portability (especially when you have to lug it in and out on your own!!!!).

I'm sure that plenty of potential users would agree with me regarding a 73 key unweighted key version of the Kronos... possibly at Winter NAMM 2012?????
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[michelkeijzers]

[Slovenec]

If there's enough demand and requests, I can't see why it would be so complicated or difficult to produce a 73 note unweighted version based on the 61 note action.

I understand that the Kronos is a professional instrument and with most professional players having grown up learning and playing piano, I can understand the huge demand for a 73 key weighted action version of the Kronos.

However, there's also a large number of musicians who didn't start out learning classical piano and it's for those users as well as those of us with weaker biceps that the 73 note unweighted Kronos would be ideal.

Perhaps the next version of Kronos to be released in 2013 will also be available as a 73 unweighted keyboard version?

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[michelkeijzers]

[SanderXpander]

This is already possible. It's called a computer. With software synths and a controller keyboard. The thing is of course that it doesn't look as "chique" and it's a hassle hooking it up and breaking it down everytime. I don't think you're going to get around that though, if you want it to be completely modular.

[michelkeijzers]

[SanderXpander]

I disagree. The software inside the box, and even the hardware inside the synth, would have to change a lot depending on what kind of screen you want to hook up, for instance. If you want a bigger screen, the point is likely that you want more information on the screen so you'll also want a better resolution, leading to software changes (changing the UI layout) and hardware changes (better videocard/more processor power).

This is just an example with the screen. I agree with you that a computer is way too cumbersome for live stuff. Which is exactly why companies tend to opt for the nice compact case with everything in it. If you want more controllers or a different keyboard, or even more storage for samples, that's already provided for through midi and usb. The only thing that's not available directly is a bigger display or complete VST compatibility (although one could argue for machines such as the Neko, in that direction). I understand your preference ffor flexibility, but I think your wishes are to some extent mutually exclusive.

[michelkeijzers]

[SanderXpander]

In that case, I agree that it "would be nice", but yeah I think price-wise it's never going to happen. Especially not since it's already possible to buy small separate midi controllers with just sliders and knobs and pads. Or even a module version of most synths. The only thing missing is the "clicking". But I bet you could fix a nice rack case/stand if you really wanted to.

[michelkeijzers]

[JPWC]

The JP80 has a 76-note semi-weighted synth keyboard and it feels real nice, one of the best.

SV-1 73 73 keys RH3 - Real Weighted Hammer Action 3, sluggish like the Electric pianos it emulates.

Roland Fantom G7, 76 keys, nice, but the plastic has high friction.

Motif XF 7 (6) FSX Keyboard (Initial Touch/Aftertouch), 76 Keys,


If I were to buy a keyboard just for the feel of the keys, it would be the JP80. They are a dream.

I do like my Kronos 61 keyboard, but it would be nice to have another octave.

Of course this all depends on your performance style, and mine sucks

I really like the Korg Komponent system of the M3/Radias, too bad it was not developed further.
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[SanderXpander]

@michel
I think actually a Mac mini or XServe with Mainstage in the autorun would be a pretty cool solution for you. If you get an XServe (they're discontinued now but still available 2nd hand) you can rack-mount it and add any kind of audio interface on USB or firewire (possibly also rack-mounted). You could even add a rack-mountable midicontroller with knobs and faders. So that all you need to "plug in" is any keyboard with midi. Want to edit professionally? Add a mouse, keyboard and monitor, any kind or size you like. Want to edit on the fly? Get a remote desktop app (or even dedicated app? Don't know it those exist) on an iPad.

[michelkeijzers]

[JPWC]

sorry michelkeijers, just got a call from apple, and thier not too happy with you, but they said your an excellent programmer.
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[michelkeijzers]