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Mike-pol · Junior Member Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 89

Hi
I got maybe untypical question, but maybe someone have experienced it too. Is it possible, that two random Kronos unit can sound a bit different? I mean, I bought my Kronos, with rather early serial number (000368), than my friend bought one, and, well, maybe I am crazy, but I think his sound a bit different. Do you think it is possible, that each particular unit can sound a bit different, of course comparing in raw state, no tweaking or modifications, just after factory reset?
I wonder your opinions
Greetings
Mike

zzz · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:19 pm Post subject:

Are you listening to them through the same set-up? Taken to the extreme, imagine one played through an iPod, and the other played through a good sound system.
Otherwise, the waveforms are the same, and the software should be, I don't think Korg will be messing with the electronics in there just yet...

Mike-pol · Junior Member Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 89

exactly the same setup, one seems to play more soft, other more "metallic" sound. I mean these are very slight differences, but still I can hear the difference. And I do not use iphone and even mp3 format, too Smile

jemkeys25 · Full Member Joined: 15 Jan 2011 Posts: 243

I bet the kronos sounded better.

you probably messed with yours and change a few things to make it sound different, so who cares? they all sound great.

RonF · Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:44 pm Post subject:

madbeatzyo111 · Guest Joined: 13 Jun 2011 Posts: 379

Were the two Kronos warmed up to the same degree? Electronics can often perform differently at different temps.

The other possibility is manufacturing variations of the internal components. Would you expect two acoustic pianos from the same batch to sound exactly the same? No because there are always small variations in the process which are still allowed in the spec. Your unit may be on the high side of the spec for some performance parameter of the pre-amps or DACs for example, while your buddy's is on the low side. In this case you may hear a very slight difference that would come across almost like an EFX, especially if it really is the pre-amps or DACs.

jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

This will end up with a fully documented 1:1 comparison, including cable impedance, weather conditions and tide influences. Stop before it will drive you mad! Cool

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Melodialworks Music · Platinum Member Joined: 23 Feb 2003 Posts: 522

1. Make sure that you are running the same version of OS on each board, assuming that there have been more than one version.

2. Do a factory reset on each board.

3. Test blind, otherwise your listening will be biased.

Lou · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:46 am Post subject:

Are you listening from amp and speakers?
Or are you connected to computer and speakers?
Is it possible that you have local control on and in software patch thru on, causing a flange type of phase? (Doubling)
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Mike-pol · Junior Member Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 89

Thansk for your feedback, guys.
Well, maybe you are right, it can be just me thinking that since I bought a demo unit, it may be a bit different than brand new out of the box. I listen them both through the same mixer setting (Mackie), same EQ etc. on same amp and speakers. The difference was really slight, yet hearable, at leats for me, but again, it may be just my subjective impression. I mean it still sounds great, so i better stop such comparison, as jimknopf said, before it will drive me mad. I was just curious if you ever encounter the same issue with your units. Greetings
Mike

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RonF · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject:

I'm tellin ya...most likely cause.....phasing and cables....... Very Happy

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madbeatzyo111 · Guest Joined: 13 Jun 2011 Posts: 379

I think it's totally acceptable for two Kronos to sound very slightly different to a very sensitive ear, for the reason I outlined in my previous post. The manufacturing of each Kronos will be "colored" by any number of variables which may not or cannot be consciously controlled--different component batches, different technicians who assemble the parts, even the time of day, temperature and humidity. That's why computer processors are fabricated in such tightly controlled cleanrooms according to very strict specs--to ensure that all the chips turn out the same. And even in that case, they never do.

X-Trade · Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:45 pm Post subject:

donjuancarlos · Full Member Joined: 21 May 2011 Posts: 105

Maybe you have midi echo on? (I don't even know if that's an option, I'm still waiting for my Kronos 73 Crying or Very sad

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