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CShorte · Joined: 25 Aug 2011 Posts: 10

Will the Kronos work as a audio interface with a computer based DAW? And, can the various knobs, switches and sliders be used as a control surface for the computer based DAW?

For example, the Roland Fantom G allows the sounds from the DAW to be mixed with the keyboard sounds and output from either main or sub audio outputs of the FG. I would like to do a similar and hopefully better function in integrating the Kronos with my computer based DAW.

Thank you and any manual references to these functions would be very helpful.

jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

We are all waiting for the VSTi to provide that. It is part of the announced Kronos package and overdue about two and a half months now.
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BasariStudios · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 4:14 pm Post subject:

To integrate the Kronos with any DAW you dont need the Editor, it integrates
as it is now. AUDIOwise i dont know cuz i dont use it as a SoundCard.
MIDI, of course it integrates with anything as any other synth, you can use
the Knobs and Faders for any VST/i...i never tried to use it to control the
mixer since i use dedicated controllers for that. Mixing the Sound between
the DAW and Kronos also works same as any other MIDI device.
The Kronos Editor wont provide you any new Integration from what it can do
now, it will be only a Visual help, instead of on the Kronos you can edit on computer.
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CShorte · Joined: 25 Aug 2011 Posts: 10

Thank you for your replies. For some reason the exact terminology that I needed did not come to mind until I read the responses.

For my application, I want to use the Kronos as a sound card.

The VSTi will be nice but not immediately required. Thanks, CS.

jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

The classical midi/audio setup is NO substitute for a well done VSTi at all and doesn't remotely offer the degree of integration which a well done VSTi offers.
All who have worked with the Access TI VSTi, or the Fantom G VSTi/editor, know what I talk about.

The Kronos is NOT fully integrated without the VSTi that belongs to the buy. I haven't seen the Kronos VSTi yet, but the VSTis named above make the workflow of recording and editing those instruments MUCH more comfortable!

If this weren't the case, why offer a Kronos VSTi at all???
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BasariStudios · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:18 pm Post subject:

Jim, i dont know if you were missinformed or you are missinforming and i dont
know about the Virus VST, we are talking about the Kronos VST, NO, it wont offer
anything NEW, it will ONLY make work flow easier (for me harder) but thats based
on ones experience and preference. Everything that the Editor will offer it is already
in the Kronos...the ONLY Editor that will offer something NEW will be the KARMA
Editor which will be soon released. As i said before, the Kronos Editor is ONLY
a visual improvement in the workflow of some but not to all. NOTHING else.
MIDI: It is already in Kronos, you go in Cubase and you sellect the Kronos as
Input and you control anything you want, any Softwaren (in here the Editor
will only differ that now you have the option of assignements and controlls
visually displayed, nothing else and thats for Kronos only not VSTi).
Audio: Exactly the same as the Above.
StandAlone: Exactly as it is in the Kronos except harder, you need to have
one hand busy with the Mouse instead of working with both on Kronos but
that is subjective...as i said, deppends on persons preference and experience.
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BasariStudios · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 8:19 pm Post subject:

CShorte · Joined: 25 Aug 2011 Posts: 10

OK, so as I understand the responses thus far, the Kronos cannot act or substitute for a dedicated sound card. Is that correct? Thanks.

drchris · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:54 pm Post subject:

jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

Yes, but not yet with Asio drivers.

When you install the present midi driver, you will get an undocumented directX connection in Windows systems.
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BasariStudios · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:40 pm Post subject:

And in my case will also suck, if you have a dedicated SoundCard then using
the one in Kronos is worthless since you cant use 2 ASIOs at the same time.
I actually never tried it on Kronos or FW on M3, it was pointless to me.
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CShorte · Joined: 25 Aug 2011 Posts: 10

jimknopf · Platinum Member Joined: 17 Jan 2011 Posts: 3374

It's pretty simple: the directx driver installs with the current midi driver.

When you connect your Kronos to your PC via USB, it should not only contain a midi driver, but also the audio driver. Just check available drivers in your DAW. If your DAW offers various types of audio interfaces, don't choose Asio (you will find nothing there).
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