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jhulk · Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:32 am Post subject:

have you done any pcm cards for these synths

i have

with the t series the dsm1 can do 16khz 24khz 32khz 48khz

but the t series only has a playback engine of 64khz so as the dsm1 was used for most of the sample content of the wavestation m1 and t series

so if you use higher rates they need more samples as with 48khz you only get 6 notes of uptranspose

the 32khz gives you 1 octave uptranspose

24 gives you 18 notes

and 16khz gives you 2 octaves

this is how the playback engine works

i do pcm samples for the t series and i do professional sample banks for synthesizers the last being the solaris

i do pcm 2mb cards for the 01w and sr

but they are so expensive to buy that it would be impossible to sell them

i do kmp files for the trinity and triton which can be used in the oasys and kronos

i do transwaves for ensoniqs and have been for 20 years

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keego · Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:56 pm Post subject:

Is it possible to make a Wavestation patch that use 4 OSC in the Wavestation?
For example The Ooo Patch uses Singing in the RAM bank consisting of A 'AH Voices' B 'FV Wave' C MV 'Wave' and D 'Voices'.

Any ideas
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jhulk · Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 7:04 pm Post subject:

i dont have a kronos so cant mention but if it has the full wavestation rom

then you should be able to choose those 4 multisounds and place them in the same place and copy the params for the envelopes and amp and filter setting

i heard it dont have the wavesequencing tho

if the kronos does not have all the pcm rom im actually sampling the pcm from the wavestation sr into a korg dsm1 sampler at 32khz and will be doing

pcm disks for the t series and trinity

keego · Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 7:51 pm Post subject:

Kronos has full wavesequencing and wavestation rom. The problem lies that wavestation has 4 OSC in a patch the Kronos has 2.
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X-Trade · Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 10:54 pm Post subject:

You can layer two multisamples or wavesequences in an oscillator though using a special workaround with the velocity layer crossfading. But they will share the same amp, filter, and envelopes. Still could help somewhat.
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cybermooks · Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Posts: 10

I am about to purchase a Kronos X, and I'm assuming it will make my Wavestations and Karma redundant. However I did a lot of programming on the Wavestation and I would like to know if it is possible to port patches to the Kronos X. I would also assume that the functionality of the A/D passing audio through the effects is going to work here.

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cybermooks · Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Posts: 10

I have the same sort of attachment to mine, but the question remains is it possible to port over programs you've made on the Wavestation to the Kronos?

jeremykeys · Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:20 pm Post subject:

That's something I don't know.
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Cpilot · Senior Member Joined: 05 Oct 2011 Posts: 427

If you want to do something serious with porting Wavestation stuff to the Kronos you really need the system exclusive documentation. However, Korg appear to want to keep it a secret. Don't know why. If I want the sysex doc for my Yamaha arrangers I just look in the manual or download it from their website. Same with any support. Excellent support from Yamaha. Pathetic or no support from Korg. I've asked Korg USA, Korg Canada and Korg UK if they have the sysex doc and not one of them had the courtesy to reply. That's disgusting. I'll never buy another Korg product.

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blinkofanI · Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:34 pm Post subject:

cybermooks · Joined: 09 Mar 2013 Posts: 10

So you're saying that you can port Combos but not patches from the Wavestation to the Kronos?

kineticsoundprism · Joined: 27 Mar 2011 Posts: 46 Location: uk

cynkh · Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:17 pm Post subject:

I completely agree with the idea of being able to load in your old files as-is to get the Wavestation and M1 sounds; but, the Kronos already has full Wavestation capabilities in its HD-1 engine and the full complement of Wavestation waveforms (including Korg's own expansion cards). I'm not yet entirely sure about the M1 waves but it seems logical that they would be in the same ROM set.

I'm working on a converter for various Korg program types (including KLC) and the Wavestation is one "engine" I will be attempting to cover for automated conversion. What I need to know, though, is how many Wavestation players and patch authors make full use of the Wavestation's capabilities? I know that the various Wavestation versions have different levels of capabilities and even more so in the different modes so there's not exactly one singular engine which could nail down an entire combination, for example; but, it may be possible to use multiple HD-1 program slots within a combi on the Kronos and end up with all of the building blocks necessary for the most complex Wavestation patch.

All of this, of course, and the ability to load/save your own samples and wave sequences built around those samples. Remember that you have 100% freedom to create custom wave sequences in global mode and vector sequences in any program or combi. As for vector envelopes, it may be necessary to employ sequencing/RPPR (or possibly step sequencers) to get a more complex vector envelope such as what's found in the Wavestations but there's definitely "wiggle room" as far as emulating those features.

So, what are the most complex features you've seen packed into a Wavestation program?