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donjuancarlos
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| +1. I remember loving even the S80 piano sound and being ticked when my Triton's piano sound, well... |
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| StephenKay wrote: | Bottom line, to some degree, is:
1. Does the sound and playability of the piano in question satisfy and exhilarate you? If the more expensive piano is more satisfying, then perhaps you would buy it. If you find the less expensive piano to do the job for you, then by all means, purchase it. All pianos are not equal. You can sample a piano at 5 velocity levels, unlooped, on every single key, and then sample the hammer noise, the damper noise, the ambience of the room it is in, the mice living in the piano body, etc.... but the end result is: is it a wonderful playing experience? Is it what you need in your tracks?
Number of samples, points of samples, length of samples, etc. is not the most important criteria. Although companies have to list something as specs in order to give you a list of what you're buying. They usually don't just say: "fantastic piano, sounds and plays great." 
2. Can you put it in a self-contained workstation, leave the computer at home, and take it to a gig?
I suspect the second point is where Korg assesses a certain percentage of the value of their sound sets to be. For this you might expect to pay a slight premium. Of course, maybe you could get one of those other third party plug-in pianos into the Kronos - but that's generally huge work. More time and cost-effective perhaps to get the Korg "Austrian Grand" or other set, assuming it satisfies you, and assuming you want it self-contained inside your workstation. Just speculating, after seeing much discussion here... |
I understand all that, my answer was to burningbusch and how it was implied a little bit that NI skipped some of sampling work maybe to make library cheaper.
I fully agree with both of your points. But I (personally) don't think that the kind of advantages Kronos has in those points really justify a much higher price for its libraries. For example I think that some software libraries are better in sound and playability to Kronos and I don't find it that annoying to run them on a laptop on a gig. |
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curvebender
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| aron wrote: | > In fact, one of the most enjoyable pianos I've ever played was in my Yamaha S90ES.
I know. I think the S90ES is a keeper for me. I don't like the size or weight, but the instrument itself is great. |
I had to sell the S90ES to be able to afford that famous open architecture maschine, but I miss it..
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aron
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>I had to sell the S90ES to be able to afford that famous open architecture maschine, but I miss it..
Did you get the 88 Kronos? The action on the Yamaha is so good. I haven't had a single problem with my S90->S90ES, just lack of polyphony on the S90. Otherwise, a very solid and great sounding instrument.
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curvebender
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| aron wrote: | >I had to sell the S90ES to be able to afford that famous open architecture maschine, but I miss it..
Did you get the 88 Kronos? The action on the Yamaha is so good. I haven't had a single problem with my S90->S90ES, just lack of polyphony on the S90. Otherwise, a very solid and great sounding instrument. |
No, I meant to say that I sold some synths back in 2007 to be able to afford the Oasys, and the S90ES was one of them.
I am debating with myself whether to get the Kronos or not, I am really itching for the EP-1...
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aron
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> No, I meant to say that I sold some synths back in 2007 to be able to afford the Oasys, and the S90ES was one of them.
Wow, you have an OASYS!? Cool!
The EP on the Kronos is the best I have played. After playing a few gigs with it, it's hard to go and play EP on another board.
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curvebender
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| aron wrote: | > No, I meant to say that I sold some synths back in 2007 to be able to afford the Oasys, and the S90ES was one of them.
Wow, you have an OASYS!? Cool!
The EP on the Kronos is the best I have played. After playing a few gigs with it, it's hard to go and play EP on another board. |
Well, since we're admiring each others keys, let me say this: I would really really like to get my hands on a VL-1 one day!!
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Melodialworks Music
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| curvebender wrote: |
Well, since we're admiring each others keys . . . |
You two should get a room! |
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curvebender
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| Lougheed wrote: | | curvebender wrote: |
Well, since we're admiring each others keys . . . |
You two should get a room! |
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aron
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The VL1 is the most amazing instrument I have. I'm sad because one day it will break and Yamaha doesn't make the breath controller anymore. The breath controller I can make, but not sure about the longevity of the VL1.
I have my custom Sequential Pro One and other solutions, but the VL1 is one of a kind. Yamaha is not going to make another. I asked.
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GregC
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| Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| aron wrote: | The VL1 is the most amazing instrument I have. I'm sad because one day it will break and Yamaha doesn't make the breath controller anymore. The breath controller I can make, but not sure about the longevity of the VL1.
I have my custom Sequential Pro One and other solutions, but the VL1 is one of a kind. Yamaha is not going to make another. I asked. |
There's a VL-1 on my local craigslist
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Gargamel314
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so... question on the KARO stuff - are ALL of their Kronos products being released as KEP's? or EXs's? cause they got a LOT of material on their site.
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videorov
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:32 am Post subject: New sounds. Yes love it. |
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| MartinHines wrote: |
The 1.5 OS update is free.
The optional EXis will cost money. Korg will most likely announce those prices at the time they are available for sale. |
This is great. |
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videorov
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| Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:51 am Post subject: Sound demo I hope soon |
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| Is Korg going to release a sound demo of these sounds? |
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