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Petekey
Joined: 10 Sep 2011 Posts: 22
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:47 am Post subject: Touchscreen pretty useless bright outside gigs |
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So I had an outside gig this weekend and the touchscreen was hardly visible. I had to hold my hand in front of the screen to shade it and still get really close to be able to see it.
Any thoughts or ideas on this? I haven't looked to see if you could adjust the brightness of the screen, I just assumed it was set to its brightest.
Thanks,
Pete |
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Lou Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Sep 2002 Posts: 1305 Location: DE. USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:57 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, but this is subject is getting old. Do you know of any keyboard interface that looks as good outdoors as in?
Maybe Korg should have mad the screen Polarized.
Hell, for that matter, my $3500. TV looks like sh*t outside too.. _________________ Lou |
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Petekey
Joined: 10 Sep 2011 Posts: 22
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:24 am Post subject: |
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Sorry for posting, hadn't seen other posts on it and no I didn't scroll through all the other posts.
Just asking if there were workarounds I didn't think of.
Sorry to bother you. |
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Melodialworks Music Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2003 Posts: 522
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:36 am Post subject: |
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I know if I'm using my iPad outside, it washes out and is hard to read. The reality of being outside, methinks. |
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FGTH
Joined: 03 Jan 2011 Posts: 27
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:11 am Post subject: |
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Kindle is great outside. |
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Petekey
Joined: 10 Sep 2011 Posts: 22
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:21 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, someone in the band told me I should have gotten a Kindle. Would have been cheaper too
Ok, so we just gotta hook up a Kindle USB and we'll have a black and white Kronos touchscreen right? |
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danatkorg Product Manager, Korg R&D
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 4204 Location: California, USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:57 am Post subject: Re: Touchscreen pretty useless bright outside gigs |
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Petekey wrote: |
Any thoughts or ideas on this? I haven't looked to see if you could adjust the brightness of the screen, I just assumed it was set to its brightest.
Thanks,
Pete |
There is a brightness control (Global P0: Basic Setup -> menu -> LCD Setup), but from the factory I'd expect it to be on maximum. It's worth checking, anyway.
Hope this helps,
Dan _________________ Dan Phillips
Manager of Product Development, Korg R&D
Personal website: www.danphillips.com
For technical support, please contact your Korg Distributor: http://www.korg.co.jp/English/Distributors/
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If you need to contact me for purposes other than technical support, please do not send PMs; instead, send email to dan@korgrd.com |
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Lou Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Sep 2002 Posts: 1305 Location: DE. USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:09 am Post subject: |
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Petekey wrote: | Sorry for posting, hadn't seen other posts on it and no I didn't scroll through all the other posts.
Just asking if there were workarounds I didn't think of.
Sorry to bother you. |
Peter, you didn't bother me. (I was hoping the smilie would have told you that) I didn't mean to sound abrupt.
Sorry if it came off that way. It's just a little screen that will be affected by the elements, regardless.
I have read here, somewhere that users were putting a cardboard window-like shape around the screen. _________________ Lou |
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Petekey
Joined: 10 Sep 2011 Posts: 22
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:32 am Post subject: |
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No prob Lou. Yeah, I figured the cardboard route was going to be the answer.
Pete |
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madbeatzyo111 Guest
Joined: 13 Jun 2011 Posts: 379
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Lou wrote: | Sorry, but this is subject is getting old. Do you know of any keyboard interface that looks as good outdoors as in?
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Actually, this is a different issue which I haven't seen addressed here before--readability in sunlight. This is a problem with LCD screens in general, not just on Kronos. I would suggest to the poster to do a google search on "anti-reflective anti-glare films for LCD screens in sunlight." There are several commercially available solutions that can help improve the situation.
For example:
http://sailing.about.com/od/equipmentgear/gr/NushieldReview.htm
Though this particular one doesn't appear to work all that well...but you get the point |
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cello Platinum Member
Joined: 11 Jun 2009 Posts: 2152 Location: Glasgow, UK
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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In all fairness to Korg, the only screens that would meet your requirements of no washout in sunlight would be avionic grade commercial aircraft screens.
One Airbus 320 has at least 6, possibly 8 of these screens.
The cheapest are supplied and fitted at $130,000.
Each.
You seriously do not want to know how much the Boeing 787 screens (10 of them) are...
Perhaps you could try fabricating a card shade that sticks down with velcro or something? _________________ Plugged in: Fantom 8, Jupiter-X, Jupiter 80, System-8, JD-XA, V-Synth GTv2, FA-06, SE-02, JU-06A, TR-09, VT-4, Go:Livecast, Rubix44, Shure SM7b, Push2, Ableton 11 Suite, Sibelius, KRK Rokit 5, |
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RonF Platinum Member
Joined: 04 Jul 2002 Posts: 1179 Location: San Diego, CA USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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I would think that the obvious solution is simply to tilt the screen to avoid the glare. On an Oasys this is simple....on Kronos, it requires tilting the entire keyboard. Another solution is to put some form of glare guard around or above the Kronos screen. It might be as simple as putting the Kronos on the bottom tier of a two tier stand....hopefully the top tier keyboard would shield the sunlight and improve the view on Kronos. _________________ http://soundcloud.com/ronf-3/sets/ronf-music
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr1zAKpV_F226LQZrUYGPQA
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Bruce Lychee Platinum Member
Joined: 16 Jun 2011 Posts: 856
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure one of the antiglare screens you can buy for iPods would greatly improve the situation for those really needing better outdoor visibility. Any glossy surface is going to be horrible in the light, which is why they make matte monitors available on MacBooks. I'm not sure where you could find a size that would fit the Kronos screen perfectly, but it might be worth looking into for those really needing better outdoor visibility. _________________ Shigeru Kawai SK5
Roland Jupiter 80
Vintage Vibe 64 |
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Muji Full Member
Joined: 12 Jan 2011 Posts: 209
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Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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There are a few elegant solutions to this problem...
_________________ -Muji-
Korg Microkorg
StudioLogic VMK-176+ Keyboard Controller
Ketron SD2 Sound Module
Alesis SR-16 |
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Slovenec Full Member
Joined: 15 Jan 2011 Posts: 170
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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Why oh why did Korg forget to put an optical or electronic viewfinder on the Kronos?????? Oh of course, it's not a camera! _________________ MIDITEK MUSIC PRODUCTION RECORDING & TUITION- albums, demos, jingles. Recording, arranging & mixing. |
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