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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:49 pm    Post subject: Creative Corner Reply with quote

I think many of us are strongly creative.

And there are several ways to demonstrate this on our Kronos and other keyboards, DAWs, etc etc.

I like thinking outside the box, thus the topic.

Here's a quote:

Steve Jobs said ďAudiences donít know what they want until you show them.Ē
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is one of the things i posted years ago, that is really out of the box use for the kronos. In this video i route the drumtrack through a synth engine. Also shown is how to use the drumtrack to create a strumming effect in the STR-1


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like that experimentation, Qui.

And drums [ rhythm section/bass ] plus bass are #1 with my original songs.
I get good variety with a simple Karma approach plus some FX.

With your successful experiment, I can see new musical possibilities.

And with that as a start, a creative muse takes over/builds on it.

Nice work !
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My head has been spinning for almost 2 years on what I call 'promotion'. IOW, locally, I promote, and have little to show for the effort.

I understand that my effort is like a 'fish out of water'.

Here is an analogy that makes sense:

Hereís the thing about audiences: Theyíre like cats. The minute you show them attention (or you want their attention) they walk away. It isnít until you start doing something else that cats suddenly crawl all over you.
Audiences are like cats, and successful writers probably understand cats better than most people.

Possibly not related, I have 2 friends who are successful realtors. They are tireless and relentless promoters. They have the brain and attitude for promotion.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GregC wrote:


Hereís the thing about audiences: Theyíre like cats. The minute you show them attention (or you want their attention) they walk away. It isnít until you start doing something else that cats suddenly crawl all over you.


So audiences are like girls? Haha just joking but thatís an exact analogy of how girls act most times, of course there are exceptions

There are tons of great artists(my opinion)who have an amazing product and market themselves and there stuff doesnít catch like you would think it should, and there are tons of terrible artists(my opinion) who just seem to get a wave of attention and success with average at best product, and sell out huge venues, itís just the nature of the business, although if you really feel you have a good live show and have a special product the promotion should be a by-factor. Thereís so much out there for people to chew on you really have to hook them with a banger or something that will leave people fans of your music or you, Keep working at whatever your doing and getting better everyday(speaking to myself as well), but then again Iím not sure what your promoting? An album? A band? Keyboard gigs?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Artcutech wrote:
GregC wrote:


Hereís the thing about audiences: Theyíre like cats. The minute you show them attention (or you want their attention) they walk away. It isnít until you start doing something else that cats suddenly crawl all over you.


So audiences are like girls? Haha just joking but thatís an exact analogy of how girls act most times, of course there are exceptions

There are tons of great artists(my opinion)who have an amazing product and market themselves and there stuff doesnít catch like you would think it should, and there are tons of terrible artists(my opinion) who just seem to get a wave of attention and success with average at best product, and sell out huge venues, itís just the nature of the business, although if you really feel you have a good live show and have a special product the promotion should be a by-factor. Thereís so much out there for people to chew on you really have to hook them with a banger or something that will leave people fans of your music or you, Keep working at whatever your doing and getting better everyday(speaking to myself as well), but then again Iím not sure what your promoting? An album? A band? Keyboard gigs?


Welcome to the forum !

There is a 20 year ongoing rant against the contrived , and not very creative state of pop music. The central point is that the bulk of churned repetition of commercial material is well funded/distribited and drowns out creative artists.

Here are a few examples that expound further:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuGt-ZG39cU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVME_l4IwII

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/post-malone-is-the-perfect-pop-star-for-this-american-moment-thats-not-a-compliment/2018/10/30/ad6112b8-dbc4-11e8-b732-3c72cbf131f2_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.de0bce8312e1

Sure, if you dig around, there are hundreds of talented creative musicians.
But word of mouth or grinding away at self promo for 5 years is not a formula
for survival. Again, these are common arguments for decades. Its just the
past 2 [ or more] decades the funded producers/entities have little interest in what is unique.

I promote my original material ( 41 songs] on SoundCloud. Its not about money. My local area is mostly country, party pop rock, occasional tribute band.
The venues don't support anything else. I understand from a business standpoint. Priorities are getting butts in seats and selling alcohol.
Thank you for asking.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thereís a power in allowing yourself to be known and heard in owning your unique story, in using your authentic voice.

And thereís a grace in being willing to know and hear others.

- Michelle Obama
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I donít let it get to me, thereís so much modern music to call it all awful or generalize it is simply opinion and not fact, because even the newer less known quality product out there is modern, although a great deal of modern music is watered down I agree

As far as post Malone goes, I really donít like any of his music and was suprised how big he got from white iverson off sound cloud, I rap and make beats and know of 100ís of rappers and some personally that just obliterate anyrhing I heard from post Malone, that being said that is my opinion, and Iím also nothing but happy for post Malone, it could be one or our friends that people think is wack who blows up, I know what the industry is and this has been happening for years, this will never change REAL RAPPERS GET SHELVED AND WACK ONES GET FAMOUS - HOPSIN, now most people prob never heard of HOPSIN, heís been putting in work for over 10 years and heís got a huge fan base and a multi millionaire, makes all his own beats and has traveled the world doing countless shows, but I bet 95% of post Malone fans have never heard of him even though they went at each other on Twitter or something sometime ago. The point Iím trying make is If you expect anything else then your going to be disappointed over and over again.

It can happen in edm Sometimes in adifferent way, everyone wants to hate on skrillex because how commercial he is, but then they want all there mix-downs and masters to sound as loud and great as his, I personally like skrillex and think his beats are amazing but also like more unknowns artist just as much, but there are countless local and worldwide up and coming artists who really suck(my opinion) that do hip-hop and edm and feel like there not getting a break or fair shake when in reality they have to keep working on their craft, this discussion can go 90 diffferent ways

The masses are sheep and if you think otherwise you will be disappointed, that being said good for post Malone, Iím sure there are prob people who really enjoy his music and to think that there needs to be some high authority on whatís appropriate to represent a genre or success the likes of which heís seen is non-sense

EVERYONE has a soundcloud, it really seems to be where songs go to die if thatís the only place youíve released them. Not sure if youíve done this already but put together 8 or 10 of your best tracks as an album, or make a new 8 or. 10 tracks of your best stuff and release it as an album (something special and timeless) through tune core or one of the other online distributers and itíll be packaged as an album on everys ingle platform you choose, Spotify, iTunes, I heart radio, whatever, now youíll be able to put yourself on the same platform as the biggest names in the business(really does make a difference)and if one of the tracks catches a following people will be drawn to the album and you as an artist, but donít get your hopes up, success is in the eye of the beholder, and making music I like and am happy with is success to me, if it catches it catches if it doesnít Iím not gonna hate on post Malone

Sorry about the run on sentences on my phone and just wanted to get this out, thanks and nothing but respect Greg
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

excellent post. We are brothers here and I think the knowledge we share
is cool and helpful.

Your suggestions sound perfect to me. I consider SC a good way to distribute and test my originals. The stats on SC are helpful. Its easy to batch up 8 songs and push them out to the main digital music sites.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GregC wrote:
excellent post. We are brothers here and I think the knowledge we share
is cool and helpful.

Your suggestions sound perfect to me. I consider SC a good way to distribute and test my originals. The stats on SC are helpful. Its easy to batch up 8 songs and push them out to the main digital music sites.


Believe me I see where your coming from as well, I guess as artists were all In the same boat

Iíve learned a lot from reading through your past threads and posts on here and look forward to asking questions, participating and learning more from the community on these forums
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to the O/p, if you please.

people with strong creativity are a small % of the population.
Lets say strong is 9 on a scale of 10.

I have seen figures of 1% to 5%. Everyone else is a 'consumer ' or a potential customer. This might be more a marketing view than pure science.

Anyway, if you have some creativity or bunches, what do you listen to where you find inspiration ? If you have strong creativity that muse will have an appetite and open to interesting material.

I like Miles Davis. I enjoy movie soundtracks and scores from the many made
for ' cable ' series ( Netflix, Showtime, Amazon Prime]. The composers
of this music are highly talented - Mark Isham and James Newton Howard are 2 examples.

I enjoy music and artist history on AXS. This premium cable channel, recently
featured Sir Elton, Ringo Star and Diana Ross. I find these chronicles to be inspiring. More food for creativity.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happiness is having a scratch for every itch.

 ó Ogden Nash
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Following is an article from a Blog I subscribe to;

I don't agree with all the authors assertions. But its worth considering:

https://medium.com/@orge/sorry-but-you-are-not-original-and-never-will-be-de0a8b131e33



Letís face it, your ideas are the result of other peopleís creations. The good news is: Youíre not alone.

In a world where everything has been written, filmed, sculpted, painted, and basically just: Done. Nothing is truly original. The truth of the matter is that, it has never been or ever will be.

Everything we know is a remix. A reinterpretation. All things ever created are a rehash of other stuff previously made ó which probably were also altered by someone at some point ó .

ĎCreators often feel pressure to stand out from the rest, in a fresh, unique way. Writers arenít the exception to this feeling. Youíre either original or youíre just not creative enough.

The struggle is real. Writing is hard as hell. Coming up with new original ideas in todayís world is a challenge in itself and it might be as well the first cause of death of our profession.

But itís not something new what makes you special and authentic, is what you bring to the table. Your distinct voice. Your interpretation. That is your contribution right there. Your legacy. Your version. Your very own take to the world to see, taste, and feel.

Once you have released it to the world. Youíre allowing your audience to take your product and create something new out of it. Renewing the cycle of creativity once again.

People make excuses for not creating because they feel that everything is already done. Which is true. But, not everything has been done by everyone and thatís the reason everybody should create. Imagination has no limits nor re-creation.

ďItís not where you take things from ó itís where you take them to.Ē ― Jean-Luc Godard

Originality is a myth, a non-existent matter. Creativity is a process of stealing and pulling influences from things youíve read, seen or consumed before.
However, this process doesnít imply that you should copy or plagiarize peopleís ideas. It means you are tearing them apart by blending in your own personal experience and knowledge.

As a result, giving something old a new life, a new meaning in a way nobody has done it before.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great post, Greg!
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