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MidnightPackage Full Member
Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Posts: 171
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:51 am Post subject: Using a mic with the Kronos |
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I am struggling to understand the best way to use a microphone with the Kronos. I have managed to hook a microphone up and can hear it through my monitors, but the sound is very saturated in reverb. I am having a difficult time understanding how to control that. I have tried messing with the audio settings in global mode, and have played with the control surface to adjust panning, etc. But for some reason I cannot adjust the effects mix.
Help? _________________ Korg Kronos 61, Yamaha P120 88, Roland Alpha Juno 2 61, Boss RC-300 Loopstation, Roland SC55, M-Audio Axiom 61, Novation ReMOTE 25, Boss ME-6, Electro-Voice Raven, Alesis Multimix 8 |
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Hooch Junior Member
Joined: 07 Oct 2011 Posts: 99 Location: Northern California USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:08 am Post subject: |
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You can't really go direct in with a mic without some kind of pre amp.
Otherwise it sounds all sizzle and no steak.
Hope that helps.
Hooch |
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MidnightPackage Full Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:11 am Post subject: |
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The Kronos audio inputs include a pre-amp. The audio is loud and crisp, just heavily saturated in effects. I am sure there is something I am not understanding about the effects bus routing. I am a bit lost. _________________ Korg Kronos 61, Yamaha P120 88, Roland Alpha Juno 2 61, Boss RC-300 Loopstation, Roland SC55, M-Audio Axiom 61, Novation ReMOTE 25, Boss ME-6, Electro-Voice Raven, Alesis Multimix 8 |
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PianoManChuck Platinum Member
Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Posts: 832 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:25 am Post subject: |
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MidnightPackage wrote: | The Kronos audio inputs include a pre-amp. The audio is loud and crisp, just heavily saturated in effects. I am sure there is something I am not understanding about the effects bus routing. I am a bit lost. |
This is covered by Korg's online tutorials. The one on "sequencer mode" covers this. It starts around 6:31 but you should definitely watch the entire video to understand what's going on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JHf1XqzBOU&list=FLPhc55XGLXIWzmG8_D3cQfg&index=4&feature=plpp_video |
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MidnightPackage Full Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:49 am Post subject: |
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Thank you. I think I am not being entirely clear about what I want to do. I am not really trying to record, I am trying to use the mic for live performance. I want to turn on my Kronos, go into combi mode, select a combi, pull my microphone up to my mouth, and sing. When I do this, the audio signal is loud and clear, but 100% wet with effects. I believe I need to change some settings in global mode, under the audio tab. But I have no idea what to change. _________________ Korg Kronos 61, Yamaha P120 88, Roland Alpha Juno 2 61, Boss RC-300 Loopstation, Roland SC55, M-Audio Axiom 61, Novation ReMOTE 25, Boss ME-6, Electro-Voice Raven, Alesis Multimix 8 |
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PianoManChuck Platinum Member
Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Posts: 832 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:58 am Post subject: |
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MidnightPackage wrote: | Thank you. I think I am not being entirely clear about what I want to do. I am not really trying to record, I am trying to use the mic for live performance. I want to turn on my Kronos, go into combi mode, select a combi, pull my microphone up to my mouth, and sing. When I do this, the audio signal is loud and clear, but 100% wet with effects. I believe I need to change some settings in global mode, under the audio tab. But I have no idea what to change. |
Why not just go right into a mixing console or PA? Your Kronos is obviously going thru something to enable you to hear it... just do the same thing with your mic!
On the other hand, if you watch the video tutorial I linked to in my previous message, that may give you a clue as to what you might need to do to accomplish what you want (start at 6:31). It might (or might not) help you. |
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MidnightPackage Full Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:29 am Post subject: |
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I have watched the video. Thank you for sharing it. Unfortunately, it does not provide any insight. What I want to do seems so incredibly simple. But I am very new to these types of keyboards, and clearly I am just ignorant when it comes to effects routing. I have spent the last couple of hours trying to adjust the effects mix and cannot get my head around this. I think it's time for bed _________________ Korg Kronos 61, Yamaha P120 88, Roland Alpha Juno 2 61, Boss RC-300 Loopstation, Roland SC55, M-Audio Axiom 61, Novation ReMOTE 25, Boss ME-6, Electro-Voice Raven, Alesis Multimix 8 |
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SanderXpander Platinum Member
Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 7860
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Make sure to bypass the global input routings for your combi. Since the fx vary greatly per combi, this will only confuse you all the more. Go to your combi and find the (sampling?/)input page. Here, make sure it's set to use its own settings over the global settings.
You should also be able to set where the mic signal goes from here (straight to an output or to an ifx slot). For now, make it go to the main outs (L/R). You should also see two sends here, which determine how much of the input signal is sent to each of the two MFX. Usually, these are at least a reverb and probably a chorus or something. Fiddle with those and you should be able to get a signal from all the way dry to very wet.
Hope this isn't too cryptic for you! Good luck! |
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jg:: Platinum Member
Joined: 14 Aug 2003 Posts: 685 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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MidnightPackage, you don't say what you're wanting to do with Kronos other than sing through it. Play different factory Combis? Custom combis you've made yourself? Songs in Seq mode?
SanderXpander's approach is valid, and may very well be the way to go eventually, but if you want to flick through factory Programs/Combis while singing, the following will quickly do what you want....
Don't touch anything in Prog/Combi mode, since by default, all of the factory ones are set to use the Global Audio settings.
Go to the Global Audio page, and you'll see the 6 Audio inputs. Check that the Bus Select is set to L/R. Then adjust Send 1 and Send 2 to change the Master Effects amounts. Send 2 is probably it, since most factory Programs and Combis use Master Effect 2 for reverb.
If this doesn't work, you'll need to give us more info about what you're doing.
Everything will make sense when you wake up!
jg:: |
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SanderXpander Platinum Member
Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 7860
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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True, I assumed you wanted to get it 'perfect' for that combi. Jg's setting is much more useful for a more generic approach. The great thing is you can do both; make generic settings globally and then choose per combi/program whether or not to override/bypass the global setting. |
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MidnightPackage Full Member
Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Posts: 171
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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I am not sure what to say guys. I came home from work tonight and turned the Kronos on, and it all worked correctly. I have no idea what state it was in last night, but I could not hear any of the original signal and didn't seem to have any control over the mix. I read your responses to my posts today at work, and I was certain I had tried all of that. Clearly I messed something up and should have rebooted the keyboard. And maybe I had just one too many martinis while trying to fix the problem
Thank you so much for your thoughtful responses. I did learn a bunch from you and I appreciate the time you took to respond. _________________ Korg Kronos 61, Yamaha P120 88, Roland Alpha Juno 2 61, Boss RC-300 Loopstation, Roland SC55, M-Audio Axiom 61, Novation ReMOTE 25, Boss ME-6, Electro-Voice Raven, Alesis Multimix 8 |
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jg:: Platinum Member
Joined: 14 Aug 2003 Posts: 685 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Everything will make sense when you wake up! |
jg:: |
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MidnightPackage Full Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:33 am Post subject: |
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lol ... you called it, for sure _________________ Korg Kronos 61, Yamaha P120 88, Roland Alpha Juno 2 61, Boss RC-300 Loopstation, Roland SC55, M-Audio Axiom 61, Novation ReMOTE 25, Boss ME-6, Electro-Voice Raven, Alesis Multimix 8 |
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beachgig Junior Member
Joined: 20 Aug 2013 Posts: 56
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Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 4:06 am Post subject: |
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I'm having a similar problem. All I want is a little reverb for the mic. I'm in sequencer mode. I can set it up either in global settings or in audio sampling in sequencer mode. It works great, but when I switch to another sequence then come back to the one I adjusted, I have to adjust it all over again. What am I doing wrong? |
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fselles
Joined: 25 Jun 2021 Posts: 20
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Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 11:28 am Post subject: |
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Hi!! Which mode will you use for live performance with your kronos plus a mic to sing and a guitar? Sequencer? Combi? thanks!! |
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