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Dniss · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:44 pm Post subject:

That's strange, I have no problem making it work.

Did you try EXT instead of EXT2? Try changing only prgrm.

navydave · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:47 pm Post subject:

Dniss · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:52 pm Post subject:

Yes, ok. If you're running a recorded midi sequence, I can't help you. Sorry.

navydave · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:56 pm Post subject:

Dniss · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:58 pm Post subject:

navydave · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:04 pm Post subject:

*UPDATE!* When I tried turning KARMA back OFF, like it was before, and change my "selected track" to Track2, NOW it seems to work correctly. I tried your suggention of putting the EXT2 midi channel (midi channel1) on Track 1 and Track 2 to Midi channel 1 INT, the split now works. I dont get it. On the Triton Le, I can have the selected track set to track one, that track has been set to INT Midi channel 1, then another track is set to EXT2 midi channel 16 and it plays the External synth at the same time using a split.
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navydave · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:05 pm Post subject:

Dniss · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:06 pm Post subject:

Try this:

-Set you other synth to receive on ch 12
-Select a brand new song patch (important)
-Set track 12 to EXT on ch 12
-Set track 1 midi ch 2 (but not general midi like 1g)

see if it works.

navydave · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:15 pm Post subject:

Dniss · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:25 pm Post subject:

Dniss · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:36 pm Post subject:

The points I'm trying to make are the following:

-If you set up the events in the wrong order, it will not work and that song patch will sorta be corrupt and it will never work. You have to set up your remote device first on a remote track (other than the first).

-Once it works, if you go around playing with midi channels, even if you come back to your origninal setting, it will not work again. It sorta becomes corrupt.

In both instances, you have to select a brand new Init song patch and restart from scatch.

I know, it weird, but that is the only way I got it to work!

navydave · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:40 pm Post subject:

Ok, I gave some INCORRECT info about the triton le. I just tried making a new split/layer on that, and its working the same. Which means its NOT working. I only got it to work before by triggering an RPPR on EXT2 midi channel 16 and using a split before. So apparently I dont know what I'm doing. It works if I use RPPR (on the Triton Le). AND it works if I set EXT2 to track 1 FIRST (MIDI CH1), then track 2 INT to (MIDI CH1), but not the other way around (on the Triton LE). I'll try your suggestion on the Kronos again.
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Dniss · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:50 pm Post subject:

I'd surely loves to know why though!

There seems to be a cascade of events depending on what comes first, and we're prevented to go back. I don't understand the logic behind it.

navydave · Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 6:13 pm Post subject:

Ok, I think i Kind of have it working. I set it up a little different. Track 1 set to EXT2 (Midi 16); Track 2 set to INT (Midi 16).

Then I went into Keyboard zones and set Track one to (C2 to B2), and Track 2 to (C3 to G9).

When I play it on "Selected track 1". The Keyboard zone split applies itself to the internal patch, but doesnt apply itself to the EXternal track.

So what happens, when I play from the bottom of the keyboard (from C2 to B2), the External synth sounds. Then from C3 on up, BOTH internal and external synths play. I duplicate this on the Triton le so its a sequencer thing.

(Just for an experiment, I changed the "selected track" to Track 2 to see what would happen. No sound from the External synth at all, and no sound at all from (C2 to B2). Just the internal synth from C3 on up.)
So it looks like for what I want to do, I will have to use Combi mode.

My original intent was to setup my keyboards for the song , Separate ways, by Journey. I wanted to use a patch on the Kronos for the main part, and then later in the song, theres this high whistle sound that I wanted to play with the external keyboard. The problem was, I wanted to transpose the top keyboard up 3x so the part was easier to play at the same time on lower keys of the other board. I could only change the patch and not the octave using EXT2 program change on channel 2 in sequencer mode. The transpose is not transmitted via midi. So thats why I was THEN trying to play that part using a split of the bottom section of the Kronos because the Transpose would THEN work. But after all this experimentation, I know I can do it using a Combi and the order doesnt matter. Its gotta be a sequencer thing.

Thanks for all the help and suggestion Dniss.
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