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Sharp
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I finally started working on a proper version of my M1 to KRONOS converter.
The program can accept the settings of an M1 sound and when you press convert, the program takes that information and using offset values determined to match the KRONOS HD-1 engine, the program will display a KRONOS screen with the M1 settings adjusted an populated on the screen.
Ultimately allowing you to input what you see into your KRONOS.
Sort of like “Painting by numbers”.
Regards
Sharp
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MartinHines
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:35 am Post subject: |
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Sharp,
You are a husband, a father, have a job, run the forum, perform music, create samples, create software, etc.
I would like to know...
-- Have you somehow managed to clone yourself?
-- Do you ever sleep?
-- Do you have a twin brother who helps you out but you haven't told us about?
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:37 am Post subject: |
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Great! Thank you  ! Can we also use the sounds of the M1 Legacy Collection 
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Francois
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Excellent idea !
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DennyC
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Another amazing development! Great job!
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That's awesome. Would love to get this for my 01/w patches! If you're willing to part with the source, I'd be willing to take a crack at the implementation. Can it work with a pcg?
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Wow thats amazing!
Would love to see Trinity incorporated too  |
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Phabius
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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Great!!!
I was trying to convert some programs by hand myself...
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Sharp
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| Quote: | -- Have you somehow managed to clone yourself?
-- Do you ever sleep?
-- Do you have a twin brother who helps you out but you haven't told us about? |
lol… I wish…!!!!
| Quote: | | Can we also use the sounds of the M1 Legacy Collection |
The interface is almost the same as the M1 Legacy, so it would be far easier for anyone using the program to input the Legacy sounds.
| Quote: | | Would love to get this for my 01/w patches! |
I hope that in time the program will support many different keyboard.
| Quote: | | Can it work with a pcg? |
Not right now, but I did build in a back door for this function to be added through the use of an external file.
Will post somthing you can all download and try very soon.
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Sharp.
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One word: Nice !
Thanks.
Cheers 
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| If anybody is into audio compression techniques, please visit my post about the compressed Trinity samples here. If we can crack that, you might be able to get M1 samples into the Kronos using the old 'M1 factory' Trinity disk. Together with Sharp's solution it could be the complete M1 solution for the Kronos. |
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This seems like a remarkable program you built. I would love to have such functionality in PCG Tools (but that's for later).
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Great work Sharp. I wish that would work for Triton family programs too. Several of us are individually working on specific software solutions to solve the Kronos backwards compatibility gap. Michel's PCG Tools are available, while cynkh and I are working on program and combi conversion respectively. It would be nice to somehow incorporate all of these tools into a common framework. However, I suspect we all use very different development environments and it would be challenging to find a suitable common ground.
So how did you do it? Did you have to create that UI from scratch? Or did you have some existing M1 code base to build on? This is a Windows program, and not something that is native to the Kronos? |
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Sharp
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| Quote: | | everal of us are individually working on specific software solutions to solve the Kronos backwards compatibility gap. Michel's PCG Tools are available, while cynkh and I are working on program and combi conversion respectively. It would be nice to somehow incorporate all of these tools into a common framework. |
There are two back doors into the program. If a DLL file is written to query a SysEX file or a PCG file, the program will suck all the data from that and populate the KRONOS UI. The function for running the DLL already exists.
The other option is simply text. If someone else’s program was to output the parameters of a PCG to a text file, a filter can be written to populate the KRONOS UI. That function already exists too. I just didn't write the filter.
| Quote: | | I wish that would work for Triton family programs too. |
The approach makes it possible to use anything. So long as the KRONOS UI is complete, then it’s only a matter of making the connections to it from the UI of some other keyboard. Let people then try it and based on the feedback, it's only a matter of then writing in the offset values so things match up sound wise better.
| Quote: | | So how did you do it? Did you have to create that UI from scratch? Or did you have some existing M1 code base to build on? |
Yes and no… I took screen shots of the VSTi and using Photo Shop I removed all the controls. I then placed my own controls in over the background layer.
To make it look like the KORG buttons are still real, I’ve placed invisible buttons over them that recall different graphics and the correct controllers I’ve mapped.
| Quote: | | This is a Windows program, and not something that is native to the Kronos? |
There will be 2 Windows versions.
1: An online version where up to 50 people can access the system at the same time. You can pool your efforts into populating the program with sounds, and then you can all use it, or download copies of the database to populate option two.
2: A normal standalone version.
Regards
Sharp.
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