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Scatter · Junior Member Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 79

Have you tried closing/reopening the editor? The first time I used it I had that error message too.
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Chrutil · Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:37 pm Post subject: Re: Active EXI is not AL-1?

jaggeddoctrine · Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 37

I get the same error. After setting the Kronos as In & Out, I restarted and it does some recognition.

Opening output.
MIDI Output device opened.
Opening input.
MIDI Input device opened.
SND: f0 42 30 68 12 f7 0 [Done]
Setting EXi 1
SND: f0 42 30 68 74 0 f7 [Done]
(11 bytes)
Mode Change: Program
RCV: (11 bytes) f0 42 30 68 42 2 0 0 0 0 f7 [Done]

When I hit a key on the keyboard, it shows received:
(3 bytes)
RCV: (3 bytes) 90 32 31 [Done]

(3 bytes)
RCV: (3 bytes) 80 32 2f [Done]

Same if I make changes on the Kronos. (Changing Waveform and such)
But if I try to make the change on the software, I get the error:
Ignoring command. Active EXi is not AL-1

Any help/ideas appreciated.
Gary
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Chrutil · Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:00 pm Post subject:

robbie50 · Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:10 pm Post subject: Yezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Chrutil

Yezzz, your right! Very Happy

Now it's working perfect!

THANKS!!!!! Exclamation

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Chrutil · Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject:

Great glad to hear it works!
Scatter - good call! You figured it out before me Smile

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jaggeddoctrine · Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 37

SoundQuest · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:41 am Post subject:

The ID for the OASYS is 70H
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qayqaywsx · Junior Member Joined: 15 Mar 2009 Posts: 81

Hi Chrutil,

Do you think it is possible to use your sourcecode to implement some other engines?

then we can do step by step a complete Program editor.
Mod7 an Ms20 will be hard because of their patchbays.
as i've seen from AL-1 editor it has some detection alogrythm of Al-1 engine for both Exi1 and Exi2.
Maybe we can use this later on to decide which engine is loaded into the EXis and switch to coresponding form on user interface.

If wanted i will give you a hand in sysex error finding. should be done easily with midi-ox, or even programming.

Lets see maybe we're able to recreate a combi and seq mode editor on top of this work.

One feature request for me is midi learn for the UI. Think of using the organs (i know ths is future ) drawbars with midi controller which does not support sysex. would be perfect.

at least : Does anybode know how to build vsts ?

best rgards Max

Chrutil · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:52 pm Post subject:

Chrutil · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:11 pm Post subject:

SanderXpander · Platinum Member Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 7860

RKfan · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:52 pm Post subject:

Seeing everything on one screen like this suddenly and the AL-1 synth makes sense. I have only been playing with it for a short while but I can see how things fit together much more easily.

For example using with the Patch VH1984 (EXi 1) I can see easily how the filter EG intensity and AMS (ribbon) are working together - with the Filter EG parameters on the Kronos its just a list of parameters (which I can kind of guess what it all means) - I am still a bit confused with how Filter EG parameters (such as intensity) are on a different page from the filter envelope page on the K.

I really like the graphical editor and this might be how I explore AL-1 from now on.

Really nice piece of work.

Thank-you

qayqaywsx · Junior Member Joined: 15 Mar 2009 Posts: 81

Hi Chrutil,

Midi Learn means following:

Your app is able do route incoming midi events to the ui controls.
AL-1 editor is able to do so . If you tweak a parameter on the kronos, your ui updates the knob position. this works for one specific (sysex) command which is hard coded into your code.
With "MIDI LEARN" funktion it is possible that ANY command can be assigned to this knob - usually restricted to midi cc.

Example :
i rigthclick on filter-cutoff-knob and a context menu opens.
I select MIDILEARN
then i move a real hardware knob on a third party midi controller(which generates midi cc xy.) from now on the filter cut off 'listens' not only to the original kronos command but additionally to midi cc 17 -> my third party midi controllers knob.

Lots of VSTs use this function.

those setups should be savable e.g as XML or whatever and autoatcally loaded on startup.

thanks for reading
Max

Chrutil · Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:45 pm Post subject:

oh I see so that's just an arbitrary MIDI cc to sysex converter... yeah I guess that should be possible... Have to manage scaling of values within min/max range, etc, but that should be fine. Will look into it.

Thanks,
C
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Korg Kronos 88 #444 /3GB, MU modular synth, PPG Wave 2.3, Modal Electronics 002, TTSH, Oberheim Two Voice Pro, Deckard's Dream, Kijimi, MatrixBrute, Access Virus KC, Ensoniq EPS, Korg Microsampler, Behringer Model D, Behringer Pro~1, Roland JP-08, Roland VP-03, Roland JD-08, Roland TR-8, Akai MPC-X, Roland TD-12 V-Drums, Fender Precision Bass, Martin Custom D Guitar, Sterling JP-60 Guitar, PRS Santana SE Guitar (signed), Logic Pro X, Pulsar P900 Series, Arturia V Collection 6 as well as various iPad & soft synths.
Download the Korg Kronos AL-1/Polysix Graphical Editor