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GooseK87

Hi all, I apologize for this overly simplistic question, but I have been having difficulty setting up my Kronos within Garageband so that I can record it through MIDI. So I was hoping that someone smarter than me out here wouldn't mind laying out a clear step by step of how to safely setup the Kronos to record on a MIDI track in Garageband:
My Kronos is connected to my Mac by USB, and shows up as "Korg Kronos" in the Software Instrument section, under Sound Generator.
The problem is: while I am able to select the Kronos for this MIDI track, no sound is registering within Garageband...
I'm really excited about recording the Kronos directly into MIDI with Garageband, but I just cannot figure this final step out.
Please help fellow Kronosers!!!

Thanks in advance,
~Goose.
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Ksynth

[quote="GooseK87"]Hi all, I apologize for this overly simplistic question, but I have been having difficulty setting up my Kronos within Garageband so that I can record it through MIDI. So I was hoping that someone smarter than me out here wouldn't mind laying out a clear step by step of how to safely setup the Kronos to record on a MIDI track in Garageband:
My Kronos is connected to my Mac by USB, and shows up as "Korg Kronos" in the Software Instrument section, under Sound Generator.
The problem is: while I am able to select the Kronos for this MIDI track, no sound is registering within Garageband...
I'm really excited about recording the Kronos directly into MIDI with Garageband, but I just cannot figure this final step out.
Please help fellow Kronosers!!!

Did you install the korg USB driver? Activate that/

Can you hear any Kronos audio thru the Mac?
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GooseK87 · Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:16 pm Post subject:

Thanks Ksynth:
Yes, I have the up to date driver, as well as the editor, and yes I can hear Kronos audio through the Mac, only it's not registering any sound in the Garageband MIDI track I assigned it to...very frustrating.
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Comrad_Durandal

GooseK87 · Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:03 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the replies,
So let me just ask this basic question then: is it not possible to record the Kronos' sounds directly onto a Garageband MIDI track? Or is the only way to record the Kronos' sounds onto a Garageband Audio track?
The reason I'm asking is because I do have an audio interface which I have used to record the Kronos into Garageband before, on audio tracks, but was hoping I could record directly onto a MIDI track to get a cleaner recording.
Hope this makes sense.
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Check out all my Kronos tracks at: http://soundcloud.com/goose-khalsa/sets

Ksynth · Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:10 pm Post subject:

danmusician · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:16 am Post subject:

GooseK87 · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:59 am Post subject:

Ah, thanks Dan the man, that's what I feared was the case, I just hoped there might be some magic MIDI solution--would love to record these Kronos sounds as purely and as cleanly as they deserve.

Thanks all!
~Goose.
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Check out all my Kronos tracks at: http://soundcloud.com/goose-khalsa/sets

rrricky rrrecordo · Senior Member Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 448

Try installing this AU plug:

http://download.cnet.com/midiO/3000-2170_4-49258.html

I tried it years ago when GarageBand first came out, and it worked like a charm. The README file explains how and where to manually install the component, it's pretty easy
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BobTheDog · Platinum Member Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 1535

You could also try Reaper instead of garageband http://www.reaper.fm/

It is free to try out and very cheap to buy for personal use.

danmusician · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:50 pm Post subject:

GooseK87 · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:18 pm Post subject:

Hold the phone!
Rrricky Rrrecordo: are you telling me that with this AU plug-in, it's possible to record the Kronos sounds onto a Garageband MIDI track????
Because if this is the case, I would indeed be a happy Goose...
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rrricky rrrecordo · Senior Member Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 448

Yes, just record the MIDI data from your performance on your KRONOS into GB as you would into any DAW, and midiO will send the data back to your KRONOS and replicate your performance. This data is useful for editing details of your performance if needed. However, it's also simple to record direct audio from your Kronos into GB. Whatever works for you is the way to go!
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GooseK87 · Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:09 pm Post subject:

Hmm, not sure I quite understand this last bit:
With this midiO plug-in, will I be able to record my Kronos' sounds onto a Garageband MIDI track, and actually be able to hear the Kronos' sounds in Garageband itself?
Sorry for my slowness, lol.
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Check out all my Kronos tracks at: http://soundcloud.com/goose-khalsa/sets

rrricky rrrecordo · Senior Member Joined: 26 Jan 2011 Posts: 448

MIDI does not record sound at all. It only records your physical gestures - key on, key off, pedal down/up, mod wheel etc. When the track is played back in GarageBand, it sends this gesture information (OUT of your Mac) to your Kronos' MIDI input and "performs" the piece EXTERNALLY on your Kronos just as though you were playing it.

Think of an old fashioned player piano - the kind that used holes punched into a roll of paper to allow the piano to "play itself". You can't "listen" to the piano roll, but you can see the holes which tell the piano what notes to play, and when. Well, MIDI is like a roll of digital punch holes in a digital paper roll.

Try this and you will see the difference between audio and MIDI tracks: First, pull any blue loop from GB's loop browser into a track, then pull any green loop into another track.

Blue loops are AUDIO loops i.e. they contain audio recordings of REAL instruments done with mics, pickups etc. Green loops are MIDI loops and only contain information on which notes to play on SOFTWARE instruments i.e. GB's plug-in instruments.

Next, open the GB editor (the little scissors icon at bottom left), then click on a blue loop and have a look at it in the editor window at the bottom of the screen. Here you will see a visual representation of the actual audio waveform of the recording. Now, click on a green loop and you will see something very much like the piano roll mentioned earlier... a grid with little grey boxes or lines (holes).

If you want to record real audio into any DAW, including GarageBand, you need to have a way to send the audio out of your Kronos into the DAW. There are many different audio interfaces available that will get your Kronos' audio signal in to GarageBand.

So, if you want to record audio and play it back IN GarageBand, forget about MIDI for now and look into audio interfaces.
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