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NuSkoolTone · Approved Merchant Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 1069

Just thinking outloud: Since Korg Kronos is a relatively open platform, is there any pathway to produce EXis and FX for 3rd party developers?

I mean beyond sample libraries like the current EXis.

As much as I love Korg, I'd also love to have old Roland and Oberheim emulations. Wonder if there would be the possibility of a sandbox we could develop in, send to Korg for review and possibly sell/contribute to the community?

This goes for FX too. We have lots of great stuff in there now, but it'd be nice to see some true emulations of certain gear (ala UAD plug-ins) or other things currently not available.

Obviously as we're naming other brands, naming conventions, trademarks et al would have to be considered, but I would imagine quite doable.

I know we have a lot of talented people just in this forum alone who I bet would love to take a crack at it myself included.

Just curious what possibilities there are!
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X-Trade · Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:52 pm Post subject:

I'd love to see this too but doubt it'll happen..

Just to be clear:
Currently EXs (EXpansion Samples) Libraries (sample data) are sold via the Korg online store.

EXs by nature can only be used for HD-1 and a few other sample-playing engines in the Kronos.

The eight engines besides HD-1 in the Kronos are EXi (EXpansion Instruments).

We can now also create User Sample Banks.. these are a bit like EXs.. but really they are just user samples that have their own namespace and support direct-from-disk streaming.

There's a big difference.
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Saxifraga · Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:07 pm Post subject:

I would love to see an additive engine like K5000S or VirSyn. With the possibility to load the original patches. MOD-7 shows us that it can be done.

An App Store for synth engines and other content downloadable directly to Kronos would be nice and is possible.

(I don´t get it. All "game consoles" have now Internet access via WLAN/WiFi and can load software modules from app stores. But I think synth forges don´t think like that. Maybe they are blind to the possiblities of this software design paradigm change. They all learned programming in the 80ties and 90ties?)

(btw. Downloading EXs to USB-Stick, transfering USB-Stick to Kronos, Installing *.exsins to SSD, loading .KSC and .PCG files into slots with fixed maximum number is MegaRetro. You have an INTEL Atom board inside that could have come with WIFI and 3G access! You can have a download and install manager like iOS or Nintendo DSi/3DS has. Go use your Xerox Korg.)

The new keyboards have all the hardware features they need. But like Microsoft they don´t know what to do with it until Apple came and created iTunes the iOS and the App Store. Now they all do it.

Who wants to be the Apple of the synth industry? Korg?
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Dniss · Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:21 pm Post subject:

NuSkoolTone · Approved Merchant Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 1069

BasariStudios · Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:32 pm Post subject:

...and the reality...we all know none of this will happen nor there is a need
for it...this is Korg and this is their Synth, as for our wishies there is tons
of synths like that: Neko, Meko, MediaStation, Groove XR e tc...
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SanderXpander · Platinum Member Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 7860

I expect you're right. However, they did develop and sell engines for the OASYS. Since many more Kronosses already sold, the motivation would be even greater.

Sharp · Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:55 pm Post subject:

Just dreaming but.....

WIVI Orchestral & Brass Band.
+ Woodwinds and Sax

http://www.wallanderinstruments.com/?mode=products&lang=en

Total Awesomeness...!!!!

Sharp.
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X-Trade · Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:47 pm Post subject:

Sounds like a bunch of us are on the same page.

I put a call out for people interested in developing a truly expansible music platform a while ago but didn't get anywhere.. I'm not really wanting to start it on my own.
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Current Gear: Kronos 61, RADIAS-R, Volca Bass, ESX-1, microKorg, MS2000B, R3, Kaossilator Pro +, MiniKP, AX3000B, nanoKontrol, nanoPad MK II,
Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro

gridpower · Joined: 13 Nov 2011 Posts: 24

I personally would love to have a real flexible bit-mangling FX inside the Kronos. I use BitMachine VST FX that is included in my Samplitude Pro X DAW software, but I would like to have something like that in the KRONOS when I take the board out for tracking sessions with various collaborators.

The included Decimator FXs included in the Kronos tries to do this, but it is VERY noisy and seems like more distortion than just a raw "bi-mangler".

BITMACHINE just mangles BITS and then it gets FILTERING and MODULATION. The modulation is key as it CLEANLY brings the dry signal back and then put it in to MANGLED mode after the envelope sweeps in again. Very cool rhythms can be made this way.

It isn't a complex algorithm really...Reduction is set by BITS and SAMPLERATE....then you have a sweet FILTER section with FREQ, RESO and DRIVE settings....lastly you have MODULATION with SINE, SQUARE and RANDOM envelopes that are adjusted with a SPEED adjustment.

Very simple, but instant radio static sounds and blip/glitch modulated in and out from the dry mix. This could easily be setup as an FX within the Kronos.
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SanderXpander · Platinum Member Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 7860

You can already do this in the Kronos, though it'll probably sound slightly different. Use the decimator and only adjust the samplerate and bitrate. Chain it to a multimode filter IFX. Use one of the common IFX/MFX LFO's to modulate whatever (wet/dry, bitrate, etc).