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Sharp · Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:18 pm Post subject: Chords

Hi all.

If chords were something you could only trigger and not play the individual notes yourself, what would you deem as critical must have chords ?

My thinking for each note is...

Major
7th
Minor
Diminished
Augmented

Regards
Sharp.

BasariStudios · Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:32 pm Post subject:

I agree with you, those are the ones mostly used.
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jeremykeys · Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:35 pm Post subject:

I would also suggest suspended chords such as second and forth chords. I tend to use them as the third is only implied. Sometimes I don't exactly want a major or minor tonality or i want to be vle to slide into it. Kid of a Pete Townsend thing..
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jazlover · Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:47 pm Post subject:

I know this is hypothetical....however:

For me, to not be able to flavor chords with (2nd, 6th, +5, +9 etc....) would leave the soup too tasteless. It would be sad indeed! You would be stuck with only giving the chord its essence without the colors and shadings. It would be like playing the blues without the blue notes.

and yes suspended chords are a must.
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phattbuzz · Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:51 pm Post subject:

Interesting you should bring this up. This past month I've been taking the samples from the master reels backing tracks of the Optigan (www.optigan.com) and putting them on my Kronos. The chords it uses are limited to major, minor, diminished and in a few cases, augmented.

Personally, I would start with triads. The thirds and fifths are most important for chords. All other tensions can be covered with the melody. So my list would be:

major
minor
sus2
sus4
augmented
b5
minor (b5)
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runningman67 · Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:00 pm Post subject:

minor 7ths
major 7ths
+9
6ths
11ths
13ths
flattened 5ths

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Sharp · Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:07 pm Post subject:

lol.... so basically “Everything”.

Given the mathematics of music, if a single instrument in a song is locked to the chords I've mentioned, then surly this does not define the chords the song itself is limited to.
Would you agree with that?

Regards
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danmusician · Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: Chords

jazlover · Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:51 pm Post subject:

Maybe I am not understanding your question but if an instrument is locked into a set of basic chords, then the bass (root) and the melody are the only variables. The chords would be defined everytime except for the root and melody.

I can play a Cmaj7 easily 6 different ways (all unique sounds....some very open sounding....some very tense). Much of the fun of playing with two hand is in impling a harmony with the left hand but changing what I do with my right hand changes the harmonic essence. Playing in the left hand the notes B-E-A...can imply Cmaj7---Bsus7----Bmin7----Esus---Gmaj7...etc.. depending on the scales my right hand plays. Call me spoiled but I would hate to lose that. Also you need different flavoring for different genres of music. Playing Bossa Nova demands a certain flavor notes...so does Gospel..Modal Jazz..Blues..etc. Yeah, I guess I am spoiled and I have probably diluted your original intent on this post.
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jazlover · Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:04 pm Post subject:

Someone correct me if wrong but in jazz there are 7 types of basic chords: 6th, min6, min7, min7-5, dominant7, dim7 and maj7.
Suspended are consider more of a passing chord.
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runningman67 · Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:27 pm Post subject:

Sharp · Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:37 pm Post subject:

runningman67 · Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:44 pm Post subject:

jazlover · Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:52 pm Post subject:

I had a vision of the Korgforums Bus going down th highway, Sharp is driving (of course) and this irritating brat in the back is screaming "But.....I....WANT...IT........All....NOW" and Sharp saying "don't make me pull over".

Ok, those are the 5 basic chords for what you want will work. Angel

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Sharp · Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:16 pm Post subject:

lol.... Pull over?
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Seriously though, do you think that those 5 if limited to that are the best ?

Any volunteers to test something Cool

Regards
Sharp.