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Synthee
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| Sharp wrote: | There's an option in Global mode to unload an EXs.
If you do that, you will free up RAM. Next time you reboot the KRONOS, the data you unloaded will be reloaded. So there's no risk of loosing anything.
Question for you.
Have you got a basic KRONOS that has not been upgraded or something? The amount of free RAM you have is extremely low for what little amount of data your actually running.
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Its a basic Kronos 88, not X, and not upgraded. I did a "full install" a week ago to clean away stuff that the former owner may had done. First 1.5 then 2.0.6.
Do you have any idea what else can be the problem with lilttle free ram?
I tried a lot of AKAI discs in Kronos before I did a Full install, can those samples be left somewhere in the Kronos maybe?
Well now when I removed the Japanese grand I could finally get your D-50 sounds installed, thank you for that, I really like this types of sounds.
It looks like this now after installing the D-50 sounds. Does it look right?
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Sharp
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Do you have any idea what else can be the problem with lilttle free ram? |
Now I know you have a stock machine, your KRONOS only has a single 2GB SIMM installed and between the OS itself and the factory data, what your left with out of 2GB for your own personal use is very low.
The KRONOS can be upgraded to a maximum of 3GB or RAM. I would highly recommended you consider installing that extra 1GB. For 20 bucks, that 1GB will allow you load all the factory data, the D50 and many other libraries all at the same time.
| Quote: | | Well now when I removed the Japanese grand I could finally get your D-50 sounds installed, thank you for that, I really like this types of sounds |
Phew... glad to hear it. Enjoy
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Sharp.
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Sharp
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | It looks like this now after installing the D-50 sounds. Does it look right? |
Yes that's normal for a 2GB KRONOS.
If you install that extra 1GB SIMM for $20, you can load way more into your KRONOS.
The 1 GB makes a massive difference when streaming. 1GB streaming could be upwards of 10GB of samples streaming
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Synthee
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Sharp wrote: | | Quote: | | It looks like this now after installing the D-50 sounds. Does it look right? |
Yes that's normal for a 2GB KRONOS.
If you install that extra 1GB SIMM for $20, you can load way more into your KRONOS.
The 1 GB makes a massive difference when streaming. 1GB streaming could be upwards of 10GB of samples streaming
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I will do that. Thanks a lot for your help. |
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Bertotti
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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I was checking my ram and now I have a question.
there is the preload.ksc, checked
there are Preload_EXs(#).KSC not checked but I usually have them checked.
and the expansions that are not loaded as default. I have those checked as well, all of them,, Rom expansion brass woodwinds, concert grand, etc..
My question is based on something I may be misunderstanding.
If I check preload.KSC I thought it included all the preload_EXs stuff. but there is a difference of almost 300mb when I uncheck them as opposed to checked. So if I want every possible sound program combo wave etc from the Kronos it seems I must have all the above checked is this correct? the difference is preload_EXs all unchecked I have 799mb free but with all the above checked I only have 522mb free. |
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Sharp
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | If I check preload.KSC I thought it included all the preload_EXs stuff. |
No, Preload.KSC contains most of the data your refering to but not all of it.
Much of EXs3 for example is missing from Preload.ksc
| Quote: | | but there is a difference of almost 300mb when I uncheck them as opposed to checked. |
It's actually a lot more, but in terms of streaming it's 300MB of RAM usage. So if terms of actual MB PCM data, it's a lot more your missing.
| Quote: | | So if I want every possible sound program combo wave etc from the Kronos it seems I must have all the above checked is this correct? |
Correct, however it's not so simple.
Loading the EXs KSC file does not load the PCG data that goes with that library. In order to load everything, you would have to load the Preload KSC, and PCG, then start filling up the other banks with the PCG for EXs3 and whatever else is missing.
EXs3 also has additional PCG files for more combi sounds many people probably don't even know.
I started a thread about all this a long time ago as most people have no clue that they are missing out on a lot of sounds.
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Sharp
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Bertotti
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| Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm going to have to find that thread. Thanks Sharp! |
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MoonMusic
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:51 am Post subject: |
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I finally tried these out....Thanks sharp!....I won't actually use any of them but it was cool to hear what a D50 sounded like....It's one of the few I've never owned...I didn't think about it before I loaded this, and like an idiot, I wiped my set list out.....Not a big deal as it wasn't a lot of presets though....LOL...moon
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Bertotti
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:26 am Post subject: |
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| Funny but I forgot just how many of the sounds I didn't care for. Oddly it was the first synth I ever realy wanted becaus of about three different sounds on it that just captivated me. Now though there isn't much there I really care to keep. I am glad I got to hear them again though. I think I am going to see if I can create a some similar sounds from thenKronos engines for the couple I still like then unload it to make room for Kronos assault, that is on my short list! |
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MoonMusic
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I'm not sure how many of the patches Eric Persing did for the D50 but I remember seeing a video of him saying he did the fantasia patch....He's the founder of Spectrasonics and an unbelievable sound designer since these early days.....moon
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MoonMusic
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| Bertotti wrote: | | Funny but I forgot just how many of the sounds I didn't care for. |
The keyboard I had that I didn't like the sounds in the most was a korg 707...Loved the looks....Hated the sound....My brother had a Poly-800 mkII that was about the same size and I loved the sound of it....moon
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Bertotti
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:08 am Post subject: |
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Don't get me wrong his is a great addition to the Konos, you can never have to many sounds but I think that the Kronos just out shines a fair few of them. I heard the D50 back in 1988 right after I got out of the Marines. The mor I hi k about it the more I hunk I was wrong above. I think there were more sounds that I really liked but now, for me about half of them I wouldn't use be ause the Kronos has sounds I would rather use, hey may not be the same but they fit my taste better now.
Sharp did an incredible job Putting his together but my tastes now lean more towards the Kronos assault sound set. |
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Sharp
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The D50 was never really respected for it's factory sounds. While a few of them are great and did become famous sounds, most of the great things people did with the D50 came from custom patches. It's still a library worth downloading and owning even if you never use it. As odd as that sounds.
The second D50 library I'm working will be the one most will want as it will contain many recreations of classic sounds that became highly sought after and it will be used with the power of the KRONOS to create new content.
All that's a while away though as I'm still in the process of replicating classic sounds on the D50 itself right now.
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JohnDonovan
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Sharp,
In the middle of downloading at the moment, and thought I'd just take the time to say Thanks! |
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MoonMusic
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| Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:42 am Post subject: |
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Even though I never heard the original D50 presets, I could tell when playing through some of them they sounded BETTER than the original simply because of using the built in Kronos effects, etc.....I'm positive they don't sound as good coming directly from the D50 because of this....I had the same experience when I made a huge Ensoniq library for my Yamaha XS....The patches I sampled sounded better coming out of the XS versus the original Ensoniq.....moon
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