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midinotes
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adimatis Senior Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, nice find! _________________ "Many people take the bad management for destiny!" - Kin Hubbard |
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brooster
Joined: 13 Mar 2004 Posts: 28 Location: East Tennessee
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Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:15 am Post subject: |
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Good videos! |
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Dreamer Full Member
Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 133 Location: Rome
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Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:48 am Post subject: |
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These videos are really good; in particular, I loved the (two) styles chosen and many of the sounds, especially the guitars.
Now I wonder: if the PA-900 sounds and styles are derived from the PA3X, how come there are not demo's of similar quality of the latter keyboard? Or am I missing something? Is it possible that the PA-900 has a new soundset or new styles?
Can a PA3X owner comment on this please? _________________ Korg PA3X Pro 76 and Kronos 61, Roland G-70, Integra 7 and BK7-m, Casio PX-5S, Fender Stratocaster with Fralin pickups, Fender Stratocaster with Kinman pickups, vintage Gibson SG standard |
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adimatis Senior Member
Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 284 Location: oradea, romania
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Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Andrea,
As far as I know, from people who got and tested the Pa900, it is pretty much the same thing as Pa3x - particulalry in the sounds department - except for:
- not fully weighted, but half-weighted keys
- plastic body
- not as many controllers (buttons, sliders, etc.)
- not as many connections
- not the same harmonizer
- not the same sampler and editing functions
I guess Korg will still keep the best mark for their >3000 euro instruments, rather than <2000 euro one. So, the marketing will be more reserved...
But don't you find the Pa900 demos quite good?
All the best! _________________ "Many people take the bad management for destiny!" - Kin Hubbard |
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johnsmies Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2002 Posts: 527 Location: Holland
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Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Andrea,
One thing is for certain, if you compare the multisample list of both the PA900 and the PA3X it is virtually the same. ( pa3x has two or three more multisamples, negligible if you know that the total amount is over 800 multisamples). One thing I can get no handle on is the total amount of ROM space used to harbour all these samples. It could be that the PA900 uses less ROM space ( read: shorter samples) but if it does not then the results should be fully identical. Similar to the PA2X compared to the PA800.
cari saluti,
John Smies |
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Dreamer Full Member
Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 133 Location: Rome
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Adi and John,
thank you for your comments.
First question (to John): where can I find the multisample lists? I have downloaded both the user manuals but couldn't find them (usually they are at the end).
I have to say that I am really impressed by these demo's; what worries me is that, just like they have replaced the harmonizer with a cheaper model, could have cut other corners too: cheaper D/A converters, cheaper effect section, cheaper filters, and this could have an effect on the overall sound quality.
What puzzles me, on the other hand, is that this PA-900 in some ways is more advanced than even the PA-3: for example it has a faster USB connection and, most important, 128 voices of polyphony vs. 120.
What do you think? _________________ Korg PA3X Pro 76 and Kronos 61, Roland G-70, Integra 7 and BK7-m, Casio PX-5S, Fender Stratocaster with Fralin pickups, Fender Stratocaster with Kinman pickups, vintage Gibson SG standard |
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Dreamer Full Member
Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 133 Location: Rome
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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John,
I was able to find the PA-3 sound list: it was in the advanced edit manual; no such luck with the PA-900 till now. _________________ Korg PA3X Pro 76 and Kronos 61, Roland G-70, Integra 7 and BK7-m, Casio PX-5S, Fender Stratocaster with Fralin pickups, Fender Stratocaster with Kinman pickups, vintage Gibson SG standard |
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BillyHank Senior Member
Joined: 29 Jun 2013 Posts: 412
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Dreamer,
Maybe I am not reading this correctly, but the Sounds and the Multisamples are all listed in the Appendix of the Pa900 owners manual, not in the Quick Guide.
Bill G |
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johnsmies Platinum Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2002 Posts: 527 Location: Holland
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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That is correct Bill, so Andrea just go to the Korg PA site and download the
owner's manual.
saluti,
John |
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adimatis Senior Member
Joined: 10 Feb 2005 Posts: 284 Location: oradea, romania
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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More to the point, page 334.
User Manual>Appendix>Factory Data>Multisample
I think Korg really wants to offer the best they can, even new features, without taking the costs too high.
I noticed they copied in a sense Yamaha strategy. They now even position their Pa900 to fight with S950, price wise I mean, and introduce novelty features (just like S950 compared with Tyros4) probably to test and encourage expectations for the next top arranger (2014? 2015?)
Now, the market is pretty clear...
top / middle~$2000 / low~$1000
Roland / - / BK9 / BK5, BK3
Yamaha / Tyros / S950 / S750, etc
Korg / Pa3x / Pa900 / Pa600, Pa500, MA, etc
I guess Roland presents their BK9 as top simply because they need to test the market for their "we're back" slogan... Price wise is there, in the middle. But I digress. _________________ "Many people take the bad management for destiny!" - Kin Hubbard |
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Dreamer Full Member
Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 133 Location: Rome
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Bill and John,
thank you: you are both correct and I begin to worry about my visual acuity.
Ciao _________________ Korg PA3X Pro 76 and Kronos 61, Roland G-70, Integra 7 and BK7-m, Casio PX-5S, Fender Stratocaster with Fralin pickups, Fender Stratocaster with Kinman pickups, vintage Gibson SG standard |
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Dreamer Full Member
Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 133 Location: Rome
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Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Adi,
thank to you as well. _________________ Korg PA3X Pro 76 and Kronos 61, Roland G-70, Integra 7 and BK7-m, Casio PX-5S, Fender Stratocaster with Fralin pickups, Fender Stratocaster with Kinman pickups, vintage Gibson SG standard |
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