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Hesitantsinger
Joined: 16 Feb 2014 Posts: 9
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:37 pm Post subject: Fill-ins for drum tracks |
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I just got a Krome couple of months ago and have been wondering if there's a way to insert fill ins during a live gig. I used to have that option with my Yamaha that I used to play long time ago. Please help. |
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Hesitantsinger
Joined: 16 Feb 2014 Posts: 9
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Anybody? |
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billbaker Platinum Member
Joined: 31 May 2006 Posts: 2206 Location: Vienna, Virginia, USA
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:52 am Post subject: |
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H -
There is, AFAIK, no "fill" function on the Krome.
Some of the drum tracks do, I think, have fill-like elements at or around bar 8 of their patterns, but none of the drum arps do.
You could:
Play live fills over the Krome's pattern using a drum machine.
Using it's pads in play mode you could easily play a descending tom fill with the left hand. You'd need to make the toms match the drum track's kit -- or you could use timbales; timbales go with everything (especially ska & reggae tunes) -- or you could use cymbal hits or a "one-finger-roll" if there is one on your drum machine. Alesis SR-16 would let you set up a likely kit for that for about $50-used. If you like bigger pads check out some of the Roland 6 or 8 pad percussion modules, but they'll set you back a bit more.
Play the same fills on your Krome by using from one to several combo channels. By transposing and mapping the fill drums to the extreme ends of the keyboard you can play your fill with drums from the same kit you are using. Note though that you can only transpose down two octaves, so the filling drum you want can only get down that far to be in range of the key(s) you want to use. Setting up your combi by specific song will help with that, because you can probably find a left hand key within transposition range that doesn't get played within the song's key (i.e., just under the lowest note you'd normally play while performing that song).
I've used the second technique to drop in specialty drums, hits, and sound effects; car zoom and engine start (from GM SFX) for P!nk's 'Get the Party Started, that diving Moog-drum heard on No Doubt's 'Hella Good', the cuica that makes a reasonable substitute for the vocal sample in Bruno Mars' 'Locked Out of Heaven' etc. The advantage here is that any key can be assigned to play a drum and it can match the kit playing because it's literally the same kit, IFX, etc.
Finally, you could check to see if RPPR function would allow you to program (seq) a fill to a single key to play the fill pattern while your regular drum track is also going. Again, not a replacement of the pattern as a true auto-accompaniment 'fill' would be, but a percussive fill element playing over the existing pattern that you could trigger from a single key and it could use drums from your kit.
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Hesitantsinger
Joined: 16 Feb 2014 Posts: 9
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:09 am Post subject: |
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Thanks, BB for your input.
I actually ended up selling my Krome and getting a PA900 instead. While Krome is a beast, just wasn't what I was looking for. Should've carried out my research. Nevertheless, I was able to sell it without getting hit too badly.
Loving the PA900, beats my expectations. Though I must say, the sound quality on Krome was just exceptional ! |
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