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need trill effect activated by velocity / aftertouch

 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:51 pm    Post subject: need trill effect activated by velocity / aftertouch Reply with quote

dear gurus,

gigging Peg by Steely Dan..need a velocity activated 1/2 step trill on the opening octave saxes.

left hand is busy playing the electric piano chords. any suggestions ?

thank you!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're going to have to modify a program, so you might want to make a copy of the one you're using now first.

I don't know if there's already a sax trill sample in the Kronos, which if there is you could use to do a velocity switch. But the simplest way to do it is to modulate the pitch with aftertouch using a Square LFO with the LFO's Offset value set to 99*. This makes the square LFO only use the upper half of its waveform, which is ideal for a trill.

Then on the OSC pitch page, set the LFO1 (or LFO2, whichever one you used) AMS value to Aftertouch. Set the Intensity below that field to 1.00*, which equals a half-step. Press a key and activate the aftertouch and listen. You can then go back to the LFO page and adjust the LFO's speed (Frequency) to taste.

*Anyway, I think these values are correct. I'm unable to test it at the moment. If they are wrong, somebody will jump in with the right info.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks much…i swear i had a horn trill preset on my Triton Extreme..activated by SW1 or 2….momentary, not toggle. will use your advice, and also try and find the patch on the TEX .

appreciate it !
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HardSync,

in what initial menu (tab) do " i modulate the pitch with aftertouch using a Square LFO'"

i kind of got it to work, but it's modulating all the time, not with Aftertouch.

thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on the LFO you used, it's one of these two:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks..that helps….what i meant was on what tab do i do this ?

" simplest way to do it is to modulate the pitch with aftertouch using a Square LFO with the LFO's Offset value set to 99*. This makes the square LFO only use the upper half of its waveform, which is ideal for a trill. "

much appreciated.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's on the P5 LFO - Osc1 LFO1 or LFO2 tab depending on what you chose. You can read about it on page 91 in the Parameter Guide.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks much HardSync. i appreciate your time!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:30 pm    Post subject: Trill effect for santoor/hammered dulcimer Reply with quote

Is there a way to achieve a trill effect using aftertouch or any other AMS
the above solution works for saxophone sound but does not work for percussive melody instrument such as santoor/dulcimer?

any help will be greatly appreciated
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Trill effect for santoor/hammered dulcimer Reply with quote

Vkhandelwal wrote:
Is there a way to achieve a trill effect using aftertouch or any other AMS
the above solution works for saxophone sound but does not work for percussive melody instrument such as santoor/dulcimer?

any help will be greatly appreciated


Checkout this article, you can use KARMA for trills and mallet rolls:

http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19292
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:35 am    Post subject: Re: Trill effect for santoor/hammered dulcimer Reply with quote

StephenKay wrote:
Vkhandelwal wrote:
Is there a way to achieve a trill effect using aftertouch or any other AMS
the above solution works for saxophone sound but does not work for percussive melody instrument such as santoor/dulcimer?

any help will be greatly appreciated


Checkout this article, you can use KARMA for trills and mallet rolls:

http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19292


Thank you. will try

regards,
Vikas
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: Trill effect for santoor/hammered dulcimer Reply with quote

StephenKay wrote:
Vkhandelwal wrote:
Is there a way to achieve a trill effect using aftertouch or any other AMS
the above solution works for saxophone sound but does not work for percussive melody instrument such as santoor/dulcimer?

any help will be greatly appreciated


Checkout this article, you can use KARMA for trills and mallet rolls:

http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19292


Wow it worked Like charm. Karma is really powerful

So much to learn and enjoy

Thank you Stephen
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