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advid Full Member
Joined: 10 May 2013 Posts: 180 Location: London England UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:16 pm Post subject: Tyros to PA900..Awful Piano Sounds.... |
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....just brought a PA900 (also have a Tyros 4)....I was most disappointed with the piano(s) on the Tyros and spent ages with 'tweaking' and downloading other peoples attempts... in the end I got 'something' like an acoustic piano.....
...Had a chance to buy a used PA PA900 and thought 'why not'...
Much improved rhythms and styles over the Tyros but again the piano(s) sound like a £50-00 Casio....any ideas as to how to improve ? |
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Reuben Platinum Member
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 1613 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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Yes there is a solution. I suggest you load this set of 8 Steinway Pianos:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1v4h5lu50brherm/Steinway8.SET.zip
Latest Updated Set 4 Sept 2014 Here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/acz3qnriffynyw5/Steinway4Sep2014.SET.zip?dl=0
These Pianos which sound really nice are very detailed using 20 oscillators, 2 sets of stereo multisamples, 6 levels of filtering for seamless expression together with all the RX damper resonance and key effects - all in 15mb.
Credit to Antony Sharmman for making the Steinway (I have added a few variations to give different levels of brightness).
Unzip the set and load it to your Pa900/Pa3x. By default the 8 pianos will load to the first 8 slots in User 1 sounds but you can choose where to put them by choosing Open (rather than load) and drill down to the sound name then load individually).
Here is a short mp3 comparing the Grand Piano RX to the Steinway.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mgtnkitdu6tx2dq/GrandRXvsSteinway.MP3
Last edited by Reuben on Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:16 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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advid Full Member
Joined: 10 May 2013 Posts: 180 Location: London England UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:50 am Post subject: reply... |
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..thanks for the samples....
BUT
I'm a very new 'Korgist'.... not sure of how to load and play new samples on the PA900....
Can anyone please explain how to do this..?
Only had the PA900 for 48 hours and still getting round to understanding the OS - am so used to using the Yamaha system.... |
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Reuben Platinum Member
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 1613 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Its simple. Download the file, unzip the file (on PC you can unzip by right-clicking and choose Open with...Windows explorer), copy the unzipped file (it should have .set as the file extension, so will be Steinway8.Set) to a USB stick.
Now plug your USB stick into your Pa900 and press the Media button. With the Load Tab now touch the little down arrow toward the bottom left (HD) and change it to USB. Find your .set folder (Steinway8) and select Load.
Eight Steinways will load to User 1 Sounds which will be presently empty given that your keyboard is new.
You choose these sounds by going to User 1 Sounds.
Cheers,
John |
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advid Full Member
Joined: 10 May 2013 Posts: 180 Location: London England UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:01 pm Post subject: reply... |
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..Reuben..thanks for the info...loaded in a treat...a couple of them I really liked.
Now - another question...
How do i put the Steinway into MY SETTING so I can pick it up at anytime...
Then I want to put the Steinway into various jazzy styles with Steinway at UPPER 1
and also on LH (LOW) but an octave down....
Then save these new modified styles as NEW ..
A lot of question I know.... |
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Fransman Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Sep 2008 Posts: 1095 Location: Netherlands (PA4X61+PAas. Past: PA3X, PA800, Y PSR-S910, PA500, T KN1000, Y PSR-16)
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Reuben wrote: | Yes there is a solution. I suggest you load this set of 8 Steinway Pianos |
I'm amazed every time I see these postings.
Korg is not able to deliver a decent piano sample in mid- and topline arranger keyboards.
Forum members solve this problem for other forum members.
It makes me think: why doesn't Korg contact these forum members and make an arrangement with them.
And then make those samples available for all Korg arranger owners.
I just don't get it. _________________ Musical grtz, Frans
Play in style. |
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SamAdams
Joined: 03 Jul 2014 Posts: 32 Location: Königswinter, Germany
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Hi Reuben,
Thanks for these great sounds. But I have also one more question:
If I open the steinway8.set I find two Folders. A PCM- and a Sound-Folder.
What about the PCM-files?
Are they automatically loaded when I load the entire set?
What if I want to load the sounds individually to store them in different user locations? Do I have to load the PCM-Files seperatelly or will each individuel Sound loaded with the corresponding PCM-file automatically?
Helmut |
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Thoraldus Platinum Member
Joined: 28 Nov 2010 Posts: 2061 Location: Rocky Mountains - SE IDaho
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Fransman wrote: | Reuben wrote: | Yes there is a solution. I suggest you load this set of 8 Steinway Pianos |
I'm amazed every time I see these postings.
Korg is not able to deliver a decent piano sample in mid- and topline arranger keyboards.
Forum members solve this problem for other forum members.
It makes me think: why doesn't Korg contact these forum members and make an arrangement with them.
And then make those samples available for all Korg arranger owners.
I just don't get it. |
I think KORG has to create a product that they beleive appeals to the widest audience. Pianos with 20 oscilators per note ( with reduced maximum polyphony ) might not be useful in an 'arranger' where you want maximum instrumentation. Korg probably thinks people who want that kind of detailed solo sound would gravitate more to workstations.
All that being said, I agree that the current range of arrangers from Korg are way behind the curve when it comes to technology and built-in resources.
There is one good thing to say about 10 year old tech ... it's cheap!
Someday we may have 16 parallel processors w/ 1TB memory in our arrangers able to do magical things! _________________ ”It’s easy to play any musical instrument: all you have to do is touch the right key at the right time and the instrument will play itself.”
Johann Sebastian Bach
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Rick Stirling - Retired Electrical Engineer - Erstwhile Photographer
Korg Kronos2, Casio MZ-X500, PA600, AKAI MPD32, M-Audio Oxygen 25, ZOOM H6, Cakewalk Sonar |
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Reuben Platinum Member
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Posts: 1613 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Helmut,
PCM will load automatically and will load only once no matter if you choose one or all of the sounds. You do not need to load PCM seperatly.
Thoraldus,
Polyphony usage is no different than the Grand RX piano. The first 12 oscillators are velocity range limited so that only 2 are being used at any one time. Like the GrandRX other oscillators trigger on pedal and key release etc. I should have been clearer in my description but be assured polyphony use is no higher.
Cheers,
John |
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Thoraldus Platinum Member
Joined: 28 Nov 2010 Posts: 2061 Location: Rocky Mountains - SE IDaho
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:39 am Post subject: |
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Reuben wrote: | Helmut,
PCM will load automatically and will load only once no matter if you choose one or all of the sounds. You do not need to load PCM seperatly.
Thoraldus,
Polyphony usage is no different than the Grand RX piano. The first 12 oscillators are velocity range limited so that only 2 are being used at any one time. Like the GrandRX other oscillators trigger on pedal and key release etc. I should have been clearer in my description but be assured polyphony use is no higher.
Cheers,
John |
Thank you John for the clarification. Good to know! Sounds great on my PA600!!! Now to edit and rewrite all my piano Pads. _________________ ”It’s easy to play any musical instrument: all you have to do is touch the right key at the right time and the instrument will play itself.”
Johann Sebastian Bach
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Rick Stirling - Retired Electrical Engineer - Erstwhile Photographer
Korg Kronos2, Casio MZ-X500, PA600, AKAI MPD32, M-Audio Oxygen 25, ZOOM H6, Cakewalk Sonar |
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SamAdams
Joined: 03 Jul 2014 Posts: 32 Location: Königswinter, Germany
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hi John,
Thanks for the explanation. The piano sounds great on my PA900.
Helmut |
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jimsweb Senior Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2014 Posts: 393
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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 7:27 am Post subject: |
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thank a lot for the nice piano sounds! _________________ Life's music - www.myoozic.com |
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patrickmagongo Junior Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2014 Posts: 52
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 12:54 pm Post subject: Unzipping Steinway set zip file |
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Pleas help me with a software you used to unzip the piano set files by Steinway.I have a Korg PA600 and I wanted to this set for good piano tones. _________________ Love your neighbour as you love yourself |
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jimsweb Senior Member
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Reuben Platinum Member
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