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moroe
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| bog wrote: |
The 999 samples refers to how many samples you can have loaded into its onboard memory at once, not on the memory card. But like someone else already mentioned, before you ever reach the 999 samples limiations, you will likely reach the maximum onboard sample capacity limit (270 seconds if mono) that you can have loaded at once. |
It will be like the esx:
Each sample on the card has to get a number in the filename.
And only samples with that numbers can be read from the electribe.
So you can only store (and use) 999 samples on a 32gb sd card.
Otherwise Korg has to implement a file browser with access to folders and subfolders.
I dont think that they will do that.
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brambos
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| moroe wrote: | | bog wrote: |
The 999 samples refers to how many samples you can have loaded into its onboard memory at once, not on the memory card. But like someone else already mentioned, before you ever reach the 999 samples limiations, you will likely reach the maximum onboard sample capacity limit (270 seconds if mono) that you can have loaded at once. |
It will be like the esx:
Each sample on the card has to get a number in the filename.
And only samples with that numbers can be read from the electribe.
So you can only store (and use) 999 samples on a 32gb sd card.
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That's not how my ESX works at all. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| brambos wrote: | | That's not how my ESX works at all. |
I think he has his info confused with the Roland samplers. The MC-808 I used have functioned this way and it was always a hassle importing external samples. Each sample had to have a specific numbering code so that the machine knew whether it was mono or stereo.
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Glitchcraft
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Let's all hope for the ability to stream files from the card like the Octatrack or SP404. That would solve the memory issue. |
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brambos
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Glitchcraft wrote: | | Let's all hope for the ability to stream files from the card like the Octatrack or SP404. That would solve the memory issue. |
Why get your hopes up for something that won't happen? |
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Glitchcraft
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I hope it does the manual is not out yet a and that would not be hard to implement. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Glitchcraft wrote: | | Let's all hope for the ability to stream files from the card like the Octatrack or SP404. That would solve the memory issue. |
It wouldn't solve anything because it's a RAM issue. If the RAM can only handle a certain amount of data at a time, reading samples directly from the memory card will still only result in the machine loading what the RAM is capable of loading at any given time.
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moroe
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| brambos wrote: | | moroe wrote: | | bog wrote: |
The 999 samples refers to how many samples you can have loaded into its onboard memory at once, not on the memory card. But like someone else already mentioned, before you ever reach the 999 samples limiations, you will likely reach the maximum onboard sample capacity limit (270 seconds if mono) that you can have loaded at once. |
It will be like the esx:
Each sample on the card has to get a number in the filename.
And only samples with that numbers can be read from the electribe.
So you can only store (and use) 999 samples on a 32gb sd card.
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That's not how my ESX works at all. |
Thats how i remember.
Had the ESX long time ago, but sold it because the small amount of samples the card can hold.
How many samples can YOU store on the ESX card (and have access to them) ? |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| moroe wrote: | | How many samples can YOU store on the ESX card (and have access to them) ? |
Even the old SmartMedia version can store about five complete projects on a 128mb card, each with completely unique samples. I assume the SD version can hold dozens and dozens of projects on a 32gb card, and yes, thousands of samples. But you will only be able to load one project at a time, containing only the 270 secs in mono. |
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Glitchcraft
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| Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Re-Member wrote: | | Glitchcraft wrote: | | Let's all hope for the ability to stream files from the card like the Octatrack or SP404. That would solve the memory issue. |
It wouldn't solve anything because it's a RAM issue. If the RAM can only handle a certain amount of data at a time, reading samples directly from the memory card will still only result in the machine loading what the RAM is capable of loading at any given time. |
So how does the old Roland SP series do it with even less RAM? Seems very possible to be able to stream a file after it has been saved to the card since plenty of other 10+ year old machines with less RAM have the ability. I really hope they allow this. |
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Tarekith
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Glitchcraft
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| Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:31 am Post subject: |
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| Tarekith wrote: | | On the SPs you could only play 4 audio samples/tracks at once though, even that is a limitation for some people. |
I believe my SP404SX will stream up to 12 at a time last time I used it. |
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Tarekith
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| Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:52 am Post subject: |
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I forgot about the 404's, I only ever had the SP808 and 808EX, sorry about that.
There's always trade offs between fast access memory and overall storage. Even the Octatrack has limitations like only 85 MB of RAM and 128 samples per project, or only being to stream 8 audio tracks at once from the card.
Sometimes you just need to accept it and learn to work with what you have, often it's not as limiting as you might first think.
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Hugo
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| Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| Tarekith wrote: | | On the SPs you could only play 4 audio samples/tracks at once though, even that is a limitation for some people. |
I think both the SP-808, 505 & 606 can stream 8 mono samples at a time, or 4 stereo. The 404 and 555 can stream 12 samples (6 stereo?) at a time. The 404sx uses uncompressed sampling, while all the others compress the samples. |
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duplobaustein
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| Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| How long does it take to load a song with new samples? Can I load a song quick an easy? If so 999 samples and 270sek are well enough but you should have more these days. |
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