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moebrand Senior Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:04 pm Post subject: Can SF2 files be loaded on Pa900 ? |
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Hi guys,
According to Pdf Manual for Korg Pa900, SF2 " sound fonts" are readable by Korg Pa900, I am wondering if you can load SF2 files Directly without any tweeking or changes, has anyone done so and confirm it ?
Thanks! _________________ Moebrand
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BillyHank Senior Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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I answered in your other post and the answer is yes and yes I've done it on my Pa900. |
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karmathanever Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 2:57 am Post subject: |
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I hadn't realised this - my PA3X is getting "old" now!!! No SF2 on PA3X - an update perhaps?????
Thought PA3X was the flagship, not the "lagship"
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BillyHank Senior Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:16 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I was surprised and disappointed Korg did not include the SF2 in the last upgrade. |
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moebrand Senior Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Billy for your reply , in that case I should consider upgrading my pa800 to 900 since I have tones of sf2 files to use . _________________ Moebrand
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BillyHank Senior Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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moebrand,
I purchased a few sets from Digital Sound Factory and they loaded right in and already programmed to the keys - just added a bit of tuning - great fun too.
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siebenhirter Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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BillyHank wrote: | .. a few sets from Digital Sound Factory and they loaded right in and already programmed to the keys - just added a bit of tuning |
As mentioned in the manual due to the deep differences with Korg’s own format, some Instruments from the SF2 file could not be imported (for example, Instruments with overlapping zones).
As a large number of sf2-parameters allows complex structures of sf2-Instruments it would be interesting, what are the real restrictions when importing complex SF2 in practice.
To import poorly-equipped simple sf2-Instruments with at least less few samples on the basis would be no big deal. _________________ kind regards
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adimatis Senior Member
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:13 am Post subject: |
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I don't really understand why would anyone need sf2, which are anyway a very old format, when there are so many much better native sounds in Pa900...
The only use I see is for special FX or sounds, but not really for general sounds.
No? _________________ "Many people take the bad management for destiny!" - Kin Hubbard |
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siebenhirter Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Korgs are as old as Sf2 - but that does not matter and there is no difference to assess someone of both would be better.
Look to the structure and extensible list of parameters sf2-format provides and you will find excellent features of sf2 (one of them are overlapping zones). If you are familiar with sf2-specifications you really are able to create wonderful general sounds - not only special FXs. _________________ kind regards
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moebrand Senior Member
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:58 am Post subject: |
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Good Points siebenhirter
Thanks _________________ Moebrand
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Asena Approved Merchant
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:29 am Post subject: |
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So in basic can Pa4X load a synth sound with 6 layes directly on the Sounfont import ?
I mean just like osc 1 sample layer 1
Osc2 Sample layer 2 etc?
I have tried load sf 2 files but it wont load them amd if it does load its only 1 layer.
Genos YEM can load all layers to an instrument file why can,t KORg do the same,
it saves time. _________________ www.globalsound.se
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siebenhirter Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:38 pm Post subject: Pa900 - import sf2 |
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Asena wrote: | .. can Pa4X load a synth sound with 6 layes directly on the Sounfont import ? I mean just like osc 1 sample layer 1, Osc2 Sample layer 2 etc? ..... |
Yes, but due to the deep differences with Korg’s own fomat some Instruments from the SF2 file can not be imported without not being prepared for it (non-overlapping necessary).
Oscillators nothing have to do with loading or importing samples, but with building PCG-Files (sounds and drumkits).
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With Pa900 you can LOAD single Samples in KSF, AIFF or WAVE format and you can IMPORT sf2-Instruments without overlapping zones. As result of importing sf2-Instruments you get Multisamples, that are base for Sounds (PCGs) in Pa-Keyboards, you could create with that Multisamples.
How much Multisamples you want to use in PCGs is yours, does not depend on amount of Multisamples you get after importing sf2-instruments.
You can not load sf2-files but import them. If importing non-overlapping sf2-instruments, you get as much Multisamples as sf2-instrument consists of, but in case of overlapping (also occurs with stereo-samples overlapping same keyrange) importing is not successful. So it's recommended to prepare sf2-bank not to contain overlapping instruments before importing (simply done with free software like polyphone).
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On Tyros5 and Genos one can create new voices based on user waveforms (samples) from preset voices (XG voice architecture). Using Genos YEM - to be honest - you have much more serious restrictions, like inability to control element-level velocity sensitivity, that prohibits construction of well-behaved voices. So not a good example to emulate.
Also amount of XG-layers (elements for a voice) is limited with eight (Pa900 24 x 2 = max 48 Layers).
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PS: It is recommended rather to import single Multisamples (ie sf2-Instruments) than all Multisamples of the whole bank (ie sf2-Preset). _________________ kind regards
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Asena Approved Merchant
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Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:44 am Post subject: |
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Thanx for your explanaion.
_________________ www.globalsound.se
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