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jimmyfontana
Joined: 13 Feb 2014 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:12 am Post subject: |
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Sales are not flopping, at least yet. They can't even keep up with demand so far.
But the machine has had a good but also so-so reception, especially when compared with the older models. Overall the os seems a bit unpolished, less config options, less midi flexibility, some design shortcomings, only 4 bars, etc.
I don't want to get hopes up because it's quite unlikely but if they release sample playback suddenly all electribe shortcomings are forgiven. If it could also sample, resample (it already does to sd), maybe even include loop playback and chop shop, then the machine becomes a monster.
While korg would be losing revenue it would also simplify their work big time to keep everything in one machine. Also, the whole 'just 3 filter types and some oscillators good enough for bass and pads' always sounded like they were spreading thin to make two machines out of one. |
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Re-Member Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 657
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:10 am Post subject: |
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Well, of the five music stores within my city (Portland, OR) that sell new music gear, so far all but one have actually bothered to order the Electribe. Each one I've called talked to have told me they could order it for me, but none have any stocked in-store for people to try out. They all have the new Volca Sampler, but the Electribe is a "special order" at the moment. These are all independently owned shops and not huge chain stores, so maybe they are just waiting to see the sales figures on these before diving in.
I was actually going to get my unit this weekend from the one place that has it, but now this news of an update has put my trip to the music store on hold yet again, haha. I personally doubt that Korg is going to allow OS swapping, but if that does indeed turn out to be true, I'd rather wait and buy the "Sampler" version since it has a nicer looking jet black case.
Yeah, I know I probably sound ridiculous at this point, but blame Korg! They really should have released both side by side after testing them thoroughly. OS swapping as an update would essentially mean they've released a half-finished product here. I'd rather see them use the memory resources to make updates and expand upon them as totally separate units rather than dump all their eggs into one basket. _________________ Roland Juno-60, SH-101, TR-606, MC-505, Casio CZ-101, Yamaha DX100, DX11, Kawai R-50e // Korg R3, microSTATION, Monotribe, MS-20 Mini, SQ-1, minilogue, electribe sampler, Volca series: Bass, Keys, Beats, Sample, FM, Kick, Moog Theremin |
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Poumtschak Senior Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2007 Posts: 295 Location: GMT+1
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:59 am Post subject: |
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d2ba wrote: | Ted3000 wrote: | Is the the 512mb memory where the e2 keeps it's PCM, and where the sampler would keep it's samples? |
yes there is no ROM in the hardware its flash ram. |
And what if the PCM were loaded into RAM at boot?
The way I see it, and its been quoted before by someone else, the RAM is here for the CPU to do its processing (i.e. realtime sound generation for VA oscillators, PCM playback, modulation, IFX, sequencing, buffering and rendering to wav)
It would be interesting to check the PCB layout of the mainboard and find where the Hynix chip pins are heading to: ARM CPU or DSP ?
electribe sampler wrote: | 16-part sample sequencer with 999 sample slots and 270 seconds total sampling time |
http://www.sounddevices.com/calculator/
Would fit. _________________ My electribe2 lousy patterns and stuff | KORG gear: NTS-1, nanoKEY2, electribe2/2S, WS/SR, WS/EX (on storage) |
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Re-Member Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 657
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:24 am Post subject: |
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Poumtschak wrote: |
And what if the PCM were loaded into RAM at boot?
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Certainly possible. The Volca Beats functions this way. Someone scanned the newest OS update and discovered that not only are the PCM sounds rewritten into the machine with the update, but the whole OS and PCM sound set is reloaded into its super small RAM chip every time you power the unit on. _________________ Roland Juno-60, SH-101, TR-606, MC-505, Casio CZ-101, Yamaha DX100, DX11, Kawai R-50e // Korg R3, microSTATION, Monotribe, MS-20 Mini, SQ-1, minilogue, electribe sampler, Volca series: Bass, Keys, Beats, Sample, FM, Kick, Moog Theremin |
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dutchcow Senior Member
Joined: 26 Dec 2014 Posts: 404 Location: Mansfield, UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:34 am Post subject: |
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I just hope they fix the bugs and add 8 bars. |
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Octahedron
Joined: 29 Dec 2014 Posts: 34
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:40 am Post subject: |
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dutchcow wrote: | I just hope they fix the bugs and add 8 bars. |
+1
Song mode and reverb ifx would be great too. |
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DrHoo Platinum Member
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 657 Location: North Wales, UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:20 am Post subject: |
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Octahedron wrote: | dutchcow wrote: | I just hope they fix the bugs and add 8 bars. |
+1
Song mode and reverb ifx would be great too. |
+1..... Or +2 as the case may be ! _________________ My current Korg gear. MS20 Mini... & now the .... Oh, maybe not !
...Had a few other Korg things over the years. |
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dutchcow Senior Member
Joined: 26 Dec 2014 Posts: 404 Location: Mansfield, UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:43 am Post subject: |
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The lack of resolution sucks when working half speed. It has quite powerful hardware, all Korg needs are capable coders to get the max out the box. Or open source the firmware and let us have a go at modding it
At least the pattern change glitches/reliability are not an issue live (not me in the video ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU2f67PDvII (WARNING: this may harm your ears and faith in humanity)
Last edited by dutchcow on Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:19 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Buska Senior Member
Joined: 16 Sep 2014 Posts: 373
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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Is there anyone else who has heard that there's big plans and a namm announcement or is it just what one sales rep said?
Is there any official info from korg on this? _________________ Korg gear : EMX1SD, Volca Sample, DS-10
iOS: Gadget, iM1, iElectribe, iMs20, iPolysix, iKaossilator
History : Korg E2, Mini KP, Kaossilator Mini, R3 |
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Tarekith Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 765 Location: Luxembourg
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Ted3000 Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Jul 2013 Posts: 625
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Buska wrote: | Is there anyone else who has heard that there's big plans and a namm announcement or is it just what one sales rep said?
Is there any official info from korg on this? |
I think this is a rumor for now, but it's based on the fact the hardware is identical, and James Pullen mentioned it on Reddit. I think it's most likely we get swappable OS. Or maybe adding a simple and basic sampling function to the synth version (just like the sampler verison has a basic synth.)
I don't think the sampler has been cancelled or the OSes have been merged - retailers are selling electribe sampler as a preorder - due out mid-March.
Or maybe the "big news" is just 8 bars or some other frequently requested option or fix. Or maybe more PCMs, since they're not burned into ROM. _________________ www.soundcloud.com/astrospy |
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Spheric El Platinum Member
Joined: 21 Jul 2014 Posts: 795 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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I'll plus 3 to the super update.
Hopefully 8 bars and better (step) sequencing .
Doubt they'll be able to sort IFX/polyphony over pattern changes (which isn't sounding too bad after people's recent posts). |
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Buska Senior Member
Joined: 16 Sep 2014 Posts: 373
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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Ok so just rumours at the moment then.. I will halt my excitement until the korg presentation then _________________ Korg gear : EMX1SD, Volca Sample, DS-10
iOS: Gadget, iM1, iElectribe, iMs20, iPolysix, iKaossilator
History : Korg E2, Mini KP, Kaossilator Mini, R3 |
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Spheric El Platinum Member
Joined: 21 Jul 2014 Posts: 795 Location: Liverpool
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Just watched your post Dutchcow.
Nice to see you in action with your friend there.I was imagining it was in some continental bar and she was singing in English/Dutch and then I looked where you are from..
Thanks for sharing that-enjoyed
PS a note to others: This won't be to everyone's taste with its ruff n ready camera sound.jus nice to see this guy with his new tribe in effect. |
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Poumtschak Senior Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2007 Posts: 295 Location: GMT+1
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