Problems using drum patterns from the combi mode!

[tritex4]

Kroger
You can also set up a template, as Pagey mentioned.

The following steps should be used to setup a non-template drum pattern, copied to the track.
Try it with a new song, instead of the one you're currently using.
It's basically the same steps as before, but a little more detailed.

1. On sequencer Track 01, select J036: Standard Kit.
2. Go to P6: Pattern/RPPR mode and the Pattern Edit tab should be already selected by default.
3. Make sure that you have Track 01, J036: Standard Kit selected.
4. Change "User" to "Preset".
5. Press START to audition the pattern.

To copy the pattern to the sequencer track, so that you can play along with it, use the following steps while still on the RPPR page.

1. Access the right drop down menu, by clicking on the tab.
2. Select Copy To Track.
3. On the screen, you should see... Pattern: Preset, P000: Pop&Balad 1/Std, Track: 01, Measure: 01
Press OK as many times as you want to create a desired measure length. Press Exit.
4. Press EXIT to return to the main sequencer page.
5. Select Track 02.
6. Press START and the drum pattern will play to the end of the measure that you set in step 3.
You can play along with pattern on Track 02.

Regards
Tritex4

[smaltonian]

OK guys honest I searched this ste 2X for this answer.....

I am able to load the Combis to the sequencer but when i go to record on tracks 9-16 to add bass & guitars I get NO SOUND & can't add additional tracks....

Is this a midi channel issue???

Please help...

Steve Altonian

http://www.soundclick.com/stevealtonian

[pagey]

select your combi
Press ENTER + REC/WRITE to put the combi into sequencer mode.

stop the automatic recording function

press the tab that has Track1 selected and change that to track 9

By default this will probably have selected a piano sound.

Change the piano to a bass sound and then go to the IFX page and select an FX to use.

This should allow you to record a bass track onto track 9

If you need a more detailed description let me know

[tritex4]

Pagey,
The problem that Smaltonian is running into, is that Tracks 9-16 are not sounding.
Tracks 9-16 are usually set to "Off" after processing ENTER + REC/WRITE.

Smaltonian,
you have to go to MENU, P2: Track Param, MIDI Ch 9-16,
and switch "Off" to INT, in order for the tracks to sound, and be recorded.

[smaltonian]

TRITEX

You solved THAT problem....Thanks I can record now but there is a host of other problems....lol

eg....The drum track changes the kit if I record higher than track 9

FYI....I found a crytic way to get only the DRUM pattern down FROM THE combi ONLY....

my test combi is Bank C 092 (MODERN ROCK) and it seems to voice steal if I record it all at once...

I trigger the combo with a single note....let it play for 96-128 bars or whatever...THIS GETS THE DRUM TRACK DOWN ONLY....Then I delete the 1st SEVEN bars so we don't hear the 1st trigger note...

I'm still working out the kinks but I'm "onto something here"....The 1st 8 tracks seem to want to keep the split....track 9 seems to work but track 10 changed the drum kit I THINK....

I will probably SAVE these as drum sequence templates for future use...when AND if I work out the kinks

The only sequencer I've ever used before I bought the extreme this one 3 days ago was an ENSONIQ VFX-SD and I learned a trick or two (man I LOVED that daen board)...I know my method seems GHETTO but it seems to be workable....If anyone has additional ideas shoot em this way

Steve Altonian

http://www.soundclick.com/stevealtonian

[tritex4]

Steve,
Glad you've made some progress.
Tell us the combination you're using, so that we can try to give you more feedback.

[smaltonian]

TRITEX

The combi I'm using is BANK C 092 (MODERN ROCK)


Steve Altonian

http://www.soundclick.com/stevealtonian

[tritex4]

Steve,
The combi is setup so that you can switch between 2 drum sounds, using switch 1,
and change the guitar and bass settings with switch 2.
The combi uses the same drum kit, but the kit is also on other tracks.
To create the desired effects, there is also arpeggiation and a shifting of octaves on some of the drum tracks.
So you don't want to disable anything in the sequencer mode, as it will affect the outcome.

As far as recording is concerned, it's probably advisable to turn off Multi-REC and record the tracks separately.
Multi-REC can cause note stealing, but that's usually because of trying to play on top of a multi-recorded sequence and/or having the
arpeggiator on. Upon playback, Multi-REC should be turned off, as well as the arpeggiator, to eliminate triggering.
But like I said, it probably less problematic to record the tracks, separately.

The drums are all set to midi channel 02.
Use Track 02 to record the drums.

The guitar and bass split is set to midi channel 01.
Use Track 01 to record the guitar and bass.


After initially processing ENTER + REC/WRITE,
you'll notice within the sequencer's MIDI Ch 9-16 tab, that Track 09's Midi Channel is set to 01, with a Status of Off.
You may want to leave Track 09 as it is, and use Tracks 10-16.
Track 09's setup may be in place for the functionality of the combi.
However, if you must use it, change 01 to 09 and see how it affects things, before keeping the change.

To recap.....turn off Multi-REC, record on Tracks 01, 02, 10-16.

Regards
Tritex4

[smaltonian]

TRITEX

I think u r right about track 9....Plus using only certain tracks which I kinda figured out....(But you narrowed it down)

real great insight you got there...i'm sure it'll save me alot of heartache and time....

I'll pick it up again tomorrow...

Bottom line is my next purchase is the ROLAND 670...I'm a hardware guy only cause I'm kinda brain-dead...

Thanks

Steve