Hello,
thanks for you explications,
for the encoder I understand that it only acts as a normal midi cc,
but no sure about the pads,
feels definately like a comunication problem between live and farmpad to the pk.
As you explained I would understand if the pads were set to switch,
then Live could send only one off message for one clip,
but 2 are lit up as result of their setting,
but not if set as triggers I think?
And it happens not always,
even the pk is sometimes sluggish on startup,
I need to have to press a few pads that it starts triggering clips.
Would it help if you could reproduce this?
Thanks anyway,
it's just so a great tool,
but not sure to take it to the stage for the moment.
Steve
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Right MIDI noob time....
I think i'm running out of midi channels as i've foolishly created a vst per channel which then leaves hundred of unused notes per channel...
Whilst i reconfigure my config file for the millionth time ( i love how easy it is now!) can anyone tell me the difference between sending a note, a control and a cc? I want to make it easy for myself and simply label the pads and switches in sequential order so would prefer to do this numerically rather than by note.....?
oh and an idea for a future development, programmable key strokes ala midi stroke, i know i can use both but to use just one app would be sweet!
Cheers
D
I think i'm running out of midi channels as i've foolishly created a vst per channel which then leaves hundred of unused notes per channel...
Whilst i reconfigure my config file for the millionth time ( i love how easy it is now!) can anyone tell me the difference between sending a note, a control and a cc? I want to make it easy for myself and simply label the pads and switches in sequential order so would prefer to do this numerically rather than by note.....?
oh and an idea for a future development, programmable key strokes ala midi stroke, i know i can use both but to use just one app would be sweet!
Cheers
D
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monstrejumo
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hi everyone, back again!
1) S4racen,
I'm used to use midi for a long time, but for the theory... let's try:
I know that CC sends 2 values on the midi channel on which they are sent: a CC number (0-127), and a CC value (0-127), so CC are made to make changes in controls via midi. (i.e, make your cutoff go to value 64, needs 2 values : the CC number assignated to the cutoff, and the value number to change it, so here it is 64)
Some CC numbers are "universal", standardized for lots of midi machines, i.e. volume, velocity, cutoff, reso, legato, decay, and lots, and some are "blank" and freely assignable... that depends of your machines, softwares...
NOTES are different : it is only ONE value (i.e. C1 is the C note on the octave 1). generally you've got a large panel like a piano keyboard, from C-4 to C6 approximately, that represents a lot of usable "triggers"...
CONTROLS... I think it is the 1st value of a CC, i.e. "CONTROL 3, VALUE 64...
2) FLYCYCLE :
I'm using now FARMPAD v1.3.1., and I really LOVE the new config options that facilitate A LOT the writing of my config files.
I have 2 questions :
- What is the difference between these two methods :
a) scene:1-5
switch_14
mode:trigger
b) switch_14
fixed:1-5
mode:trigger
??
- I have tried the "selectscene" mode for a switch to directly access to a selected scene, but I still have the same "complain" : is there any way to have the scene select return to former scene when we switch this switch again, or stop pressing it?
I'd like this feature to have a kind of global scene (scene1) with mutes and play record live scene select, etc.), directly accessible with a switch, but with the abilituy to automatically return to the "former" scene, that is a scene where I can trigger my loops.
(I have one scene per song, with all loops on pads, so when I'm on scene 4, i.e., I'm playing song 4, and I'd like to simply access scene 1 sometimes to mute or unmute some tracks, but beeing easily able to return AUTOMATICALLY to scene 4 to keep on triggering my song loops...)
YOUR NEW FARMPAD IS REALLY COOL, AND EASY TO CONFIGURE, THAT TOTALLY ROCKS !!!!
cheers to all,
hi everyone, back again!
1) S4racen,
I'm used to use midi for a long time, but for the theory... let's try:
I know that CC sends 2 values on the midi channel on which they are sent: a CC number (0-127), and a CC value (0-127), so CC are made to make changes in controls via midi. (i.e, make your cutoff go to value 64, needs 2 values : the CC number assignated to the cutoff, and the value number to change it, so here it is 64)
Some CC numbers are "universal", standardized for lots of midi machines, i.e. volume, velocity, cutoff, reso, legato, decay, and lots, and some are "blank" and freely assignable... that depends of your machines, softwares...
NOTES are different : it is only ONE value (i.e. C1 is the C note on the octave 1). generally you've got a large panel like a piano keyboard, from C-4 to C6 approximately, that represents a lot of usable "triggers"...
CONTROLS... I think it is the 1st value of a CC, i.e. "CONTROL 3, VALUE 64...
2) FLYCYCLE :
I'm using now FARMPAD v1.3.1., and I really LOVE the new config options that facilitate A LOT the writing of my config files.
I have 2 questions :
- What is the difference between these two methods :
a) scene:1-5
switch_14
mode:trigger
b) switch_14
fixed:1-5
mode:trigger
??
- I have tried the "selectscene" mode for a switch to directly access to a selected scene, but I still have the same "complain" : is there any way to have the scene select return to former scene when we switch this switch again, or stop pressing it?
I'd like this feature to have a kind of global scene (scene1) with mutes and play record live scene select, etc.), directly accessible with a switch, but with the abilituy to automatically return to the "former" scene, that is a scene where I can trigger my loops.
(I have one scene per song, with all loops on pads, so when I'm on scene 4, i.e., I'm playing song 4, and I'd like to simply access scene 1 sometimes to mute or unmute some tracks, but beeing easily able to return AUTOMATICALLY to scene 4 to keep on triggering my song loops...)
YOUR NEW FARMPAD IS REALLY COOL, AND EASY TO CONFIGURE, THAT TOTALLY ROCKS !!!!
cheers to all,
Last edited by monstrejumo on Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:07 am, edited 1 time in total.
my music : www.myspace.com/monstrejumo
Cheers man, just what i was looking for!monstrejumo wrote:
hi everyone, back again!
1) S4racen,
I'm used to use midi for a long time, ut for the theory...
I know that CC sends 2 values on the midi channel on which they are sent: a CC number (0-127), and a CC value (0-127), so CC are made to make changes in controls via midi. (i.e, make your cutoff go to value 64, needs 2 values : the CC number assignated to the cutoff, and the value number to change it, so here it is 64)
Some CC numbers are "universal" for lots of midi machines, i.e. volume, velocity, cutoff, reso, legato, decay, and lots, and some are "blank" and freely assignable... that depends of your machines, softwares...
Notes are different : it is only ONE value (i.e. C1 is the C note on the octave 1). generally you've got a large panel like a piano keyboard, from C-4 to C-6 approximately, that represents a lot of usable "triggers"...
CONTROLS... I think it is the 1st value of a CC, i.e. "CONTROL 3, VALUE 64...
2) FLYCYCLE :
I'm using now FARMPAD v1.3.1., and I really LOVE the new config options that facilitate A LOT the writing of my config files.
I have 2 questions :
- What is the difference between these two methods :
a) scene:1-5
switch_14
mode:trigger
b) switch_14
fixed:1-5
mode:trigger
??
- I have tried the "selectscene" mode for a switch to directly access to a selected scene, but I still have the same "complain" : is there any way to have the scene select return to former scene when we switch this switch again, or stop pressing it?
I'd like this feature to have a kind of global scene (scene1) with mutes and play record live scene select, etc.), directly accessible with a switch, but with the abilituy to automatically return to the "former" scene, that is a scene where I can trigger my loops.
(I have one scene per song, with all loops on pads, so when I'm on scene 4, i.e., I'm playing song 4, and I'd like to simply access scene 1 sometimes to mute or unmute some tracks, but beeing easily able to return AUTOMATICALLY to scene 4 to keep on triggering my song loops...)
YOUR NEW FARMPAD IS REALLY COOL, AND EASY TO CONFIGURE, THAT TOTALLY ROCKS !!!!
cheers to all,
I hope the request you've made gets implemented as well, it'd work just like a shift button for me, and i've saved four switches to have four shift scenes just in case....
Cheers
D
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monstrejumo
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you're welcome S4racen, it is often difficult to find a way among all those parameters, and so easy to loose it's mind !!
you said in a single word what I'd like to explain in strange long sentences:
SHIFT button !!
and I'd like my shift button to access directly to a specific global scene, returning back to the "played" scene when stopping pressing this "shift" button.
I hope Flycycle can easily update that wish !!!!
cheers
my music : www.myspace.com/monstrejumo
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monstrejumo
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back and back again 
2 things:
1)serotonine,
I tried to understand your problem, for the non lighting / triggering pads, but I don't.
at least try to set your pads in mode:RETRIGGER with clips set in live to GATE MODE or TOGGLE. IT WORKS COMPLETELY FINE on my config. you say you use pads in trigger mode, but this mode can't make the pads stay lit when a clip is played I think...
FARMPAD never is sluggish, and never lauches another pad when hitting one. But sometimes it is BUGGY, when my own CONFIG FILE IS BUGGY (a forgotten ":", a hit error, like "sene" instead of "scene"...), in this case the behavior can be foolish... but the bug si mine
for your other "bug" I really can't help, sorry
are you sure of your midi confing in live's preferences?
are you sure of your midi usb routing system (computer, soundcard...)?
I hope you'll get a working config, because it is so sweet...
2 )Dear FLYCYCLE, may I have a second wish?
I tried the fixed velocity parameter, but I understand It is impossible to set a chosen fixed value...?
for instance I'd like a pad to send a fixed velo at 100... (velocity:100) but it seems not allowed? (it would be great for using with drums plugin...)
beat me flycyle, I may be irritating with all these wishes !!!!
2 things:
1)serotonine,
I tried to understand your problem, for the non lighting / triggering pads, but I don't.
at least try to set your pads in mode:RETRIGGER with clips set in live to GATE MODE or TOGGLE. IT WORKS COMPLETELY FINE on my config. you say you use pads in trigger mode, but this mode can't make the pads stay lit when a clip is played I think...
FARMPAD never is sluggish, and never lauches another pad when hitting one. But sometimes it is BUGGY, when my own CONFIG FILE IS BUGGY (a forgotten ":", a hit error, like "sene" instead of "scene"...), in this case the behavior can be foolish... but the bug si mine
for your other "bug" I really can't help, sorry
are you sure of your midi confing in live's preferences?
are you sure of your midi usb routing system (computer, soundcard...)?
I hope you'll get a working config, because it is so sweet...
2 )Dear FLYCYCLE, may I have a second wish?
I tried the fixed velocity parameter, but I understand It is impossible to set a chosen fixed value...?
for instance I'd like a pad to send a fixed velo at 100... (velocity:100) but it seems not allowed? (it would be great for using with drums plugin...)
beat me flycyle, I may be irritating with all these wishes !!!!
my music : www.myspace.com/monstrejumo
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monstrejumo
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yo S4race,
could you explain to me this "min and max value" with the velocity?
shall I write something like this :
pad:10
velocity:100-100 ?
(I'll check the readme stuff and example files tonite...)
cheers
could you explain to me this "min and max value" with the velocity?
shall I write something like this :
pad:10
velocity:100-100 ?
(I'll check the readme stuff and example files tonite...)
huh? radio buttons? I don't understand a single thing today, gotta go to sleep early toniteI'm not using it on instruments though merely radio buttons in ableton?
cheers
my music : www.myspace.com/monstrejumo
try adding to your current set up.....
pad:10
minvalue:99
maxvalue:99
mode:trigger
think that'll do it....
Just figured out xy switch, how good is farmpad!!!
And radio buttons are the type that there are three states for the device to be in, say on a beat repeat it can be run as mix ins or gate. you can map one cc to it only so you run three pads firing different velocitys in a group lit up to show the current state!
Cheers
D
pad:10
minvalue:99
maxvalue:99
mode:trigger
think that'll do it....
Just figured out xy switch, how good is farmpad!!!
And radio buttons are the type that there are three states for the device to be in, say on a beat repeat it can be run as mix ins or gate. you can map one cc to it only so you run three pads firing different velocitys in a group lit up to show the current state!
Cheers
D
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monstrejumo
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thanks again S4racen...
I promise I'll post a video on youtube soon as my config is fully operative (it is, but I want more blink blink and foolish stuff, farmpad is a great brain shaker !!!!)
And for the windows port... Flycycle, I think that with the other guy named Stiwi from Alphakanal... you're gonna make a lot of people want to switch to mac !!!!!
gotta find a prog guy that will do the job, Flycycle must be too busy
best regards and long life to Flycycle
I promise I'll post a video on youtube soon as my config is fully operative (it is, but I want more blink blink and foolish stuff, farmpad is a great brain shaker !!!!)
And for the windows port... Flycycle, I think that with the other guy named Stiwi from Alphakanal... you're gonna make a lot of people want to switch to mac !!!!!
gotta find a prog guy that will do the job, Flycycle must be too busy
best regards and long life to Flycycle
my music : www.myspace.com/monstrejumo
Autofilter setup in Live!!
One scene to control all the options....
Top eight pads turn a rack containing an autofilter per channel on / off....
Next four pads control the rate of the LFO by sending the same control message but with different min and max values....
Bottom four pads choose which type of filter low pass notch etc. by the same method as above.
Knob one controls amount of LFO
And finally x/y pad as switch turns on the Autofilter itself and then controls the x and y values....
Turn on channel, and press x/y then whizz finger around and finally start playing with your music!
Farmpad Rocks!!!
Anyone else got any other set ups they can detail here?
Cheers
D
One scene to control all the options....
Top eight pads turn a rack containing an autofilter per channel on / off....
Next four pads control the rate of the LFO by sending the same control message but with different min and max values....
Bottom four pads choose which type of filter low pass notch etc. by the same method as above.
Knob one controls amount of LFO
And finally x/y pad as switch turns on the Autofilter itself and then controls the x and y values....
Turn on channel, and press x/y then whizz finger around and finally start playing with your music!
Farmpad Rocks!!!
Anyone else got any other set ups they can detail here?
Cheers
D
Ok Channel is the vertical channel of clips.... Could be Midi but i mainly use audio tracks (if i ever use midi it's for a drum rack or when i've sliced a sample to cut it up)
I then place an autofilter in that channel and then group it with itself, this effectively gives you two on off controls, the rack itself is turned on and off by a pad configured to act as a switch so lit up tells me the filter is rready to be used...
The X/Y pad then, acting as a switch, turns the filter itself on with the position of my finger effecting the actual output of the device, removing the finger turns the filter off again...
Great for quick squelches!
Cheers
D
I then place an autofilter in that channel and then group it with itself, this effectively gives you two on off controls, the rack itself is turned on and off by a pad configured to act as a switch so lit up tells me the filter is rready to be used...
The X/Y pad then, acting as a switch, turns the filter itself on with the position of my finger effecting the actual output of the device, removing the finger turns the filter off again...
Great for quick squelches!
Cheers
D
Thanks for the clarification. I find different uses for terminology can get confusing. When I hear "channel", I usually think of MIDI channels per port (1 -16). And for Ableton Live, I'm more used to saying "tracks" rather than "channels".S4racen wrote:Ok Channel is the vertical channel of clips.... Could be Midi but i mainly use audio tracks (if i ever use midi it's for a drum rack or when i've sliced a sample to cut it up)
Thanks for sharing your tip!