kaoss monome UPDATED new standlone .exe

salamanderanagram · Post by **salamanderanagram** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:04 am

what the heck, they both have an 8x8 grid, it seems like there should be a way to get a monome clone on a KAOSS pad right?? oish1 already posted a little about this here -

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... highlight=

i've got my KP3 programmed now so that touching the XY pad turns on the corresponding LED, and keeps it on, it can do this for as many LEDs at once as you like.

i'm thinking i need two more modules - one for translating all outgoing data so that it looks like it's coming from a monome, and another for translating all incoming data so that it can be accepted and understood by the kaoss pad...

i'm kind of at a loss for how to do this or even get started, any ideas would be appreciated, i'd rather not re-invent the wheel.

chinkial · Post by **chinkial** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:59 am

my reaktor ensemble beatbox kaoss
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tLpCYIYhLfw

my vst versions
kaossbox 1
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0KWKbUSWyto

kaossbox 2 16steps
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CWUCZAlG5AQ

sorry vid quality aint too good as i use quick capture in utube
every time i upload a vid it wnds up like this
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5wsSLiSWtnc

sooshee · Post by **sooshee** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:05 am

one of the reasons i kept my kaoss is because of its untapped potential. like using the led pad as a 40h monome. $500 value right there! i cant wait till someone cracks the monome code and unleashes this beast!! unfortunately im way too lazy to do it myself

but hey, im cheering for anyone who wants to give it a go!! nothing wrong with reinventing the wheel. whatever works!

salamanderanagram · Post by **salamanderanagram** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:42 pm

chinkial, thanks for the reply....

is that a full monome emulation for the KP3 or just using similar concepts? cause i'm working on partial emulation right now but it sure would be nice to not have to

salamanderanagram · Post by **salamanderanagram** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:02 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28W7hEiBZW8

figured out how a lot of this stuff works.... i'm about 20% done making a monome emulator for the kaoss pad now.

very basic stuff is implemented, fortunately there's not too much non-complicated stuff really... here is a simple demo on a monome patch running conway's game of life on a KP3.

KaDash! · Post by **KaDash!** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:39 am

Yay!

chinkial · Post by **chinkial** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:29 pm

[quote="salamanderanagram"]chinkial, thanks for the reply....

is that a full monome emulation for the KP3 or just using similar concepts? cause i'm working on partial emulation right now but it sure would be nice to not have to

[/quote]
well that was my inital idea a monome clone
as id thought this was gonna be built into the kp3 when i got mine
pretty annoyed it wasnt but with some experimentation
i finally got somethin workin
ive got a few more things im working on kp3 inspired

chinkial · Post by **chinkial** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:35 pm

[quote="salamanderanagram"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28W7hEiBZW8

figured out how a lot of this stuff works.... i'm about 20% done making a monome emulator for the kaoss pad now.

very basic stuff is implemented, fortunately there's not too much non-complicated stuff really... here is a simple demo on a monome patch running conway's game of life on a KP3.[/quote]
thats cool man what are u using to make that
i use reaktor and synthedit and bonville cps
but ive been thinking of trying puredata

u could now make a kp3 version of glitch ds
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=H0WheXZGGTE

salamanderanagram · Post by **salamanderanagram** » Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:38 pm

i taught myself chuck to do all the coding, it's kinda complicated but looking at the stuff you've done i would guess you could pick it up pretty quick...

it has built in classes for sending and receiving both OSC and MIDI data, which is pretty much the whole program - get something from the KP3, translate it to what a monome would be telling the program, then receiving OSC back and translating that back to something the KP3 can use. it's actually way simpler than i had anticipated, working on some of the more complicated stuff now but it's nearly complete.

most likely i'll release this as donation-ware at some point in the next month.

salamanderanagram · Post by **salamanderanagram** » Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:27 pm

here's a bit of my work so far, alpha version is up; buggy but pretty neat nonethess!

http://circuitbent.wikispaces.com/Monome+clone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5ACSPPMg3o

SMK · Post by **SMK** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:52 am

salamanderanagram wrote:here's a bit of my work so far, alpha version is up; buggy but pretty neat nonethess!

http://circuitbent.wikispaces.com/Monome+clone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5ACSPPMg3o

Are you working on a version that is just a simple program for the KP3 to recognize via USB for those of us who are not programmers? a straightforward program would be very helpful!

salamanderanagram · Post by **salamanderanagram** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:17 pm

EDIT - i can't really even try to make an .exe without more alpha testers, who either don't exist or don't feel it necessary to let me know if it's working from them or not. maybe with enough data i could try but right now it seems kinda pointless to make something for a group of people who can't even tell me if it's working for them or not.

are you talking about an . exe file? the answer is no; i don't have time for that and this should work even if you aren't a programmer; at most you would have to adjust a few number figures in the code.

heck you could delete line 35 altogether if you want, but that's sloppy because then it will send the MIDI out data to every midi port it can find. your best bet is to check line 35 and keep increasing the values; ie..

if (i == 1)
if (i == 2) ; etc. the console monitor will tell you which midi port is being opened.

have you tried this? i can help walk you thru it if you want.

salamanderanagram · Post by **salamanderanagram** » Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:32 pm

now that i've looked into it for a second, i can't even figure out HOW to create an exectuable with miniaudicle. i'm actually not even sure that it has a compiler at all...

maako · Post by **maako** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:30 pm

Interesting project.
Don't give up on this. I'm about to move from the far east to Scandinavia, so my unit is (hopefully) safe on it's way.
But I wot settle down until mid September, I'd be glad to help as a tester.

salamanderanagram · Post by **salamanderanagram** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:32 pm

thanks! it's a convoluted process to be sure and maybe i could learn puredata and translate it to that to get a more user-friendly version. i kind of need to work out some timing issues with hanging threads though before doing that.

anyway, please let me know here or wherever when you do try if it works or what isn't working.

p.s. hey, don't you have contact with some guy at KORG? could you maybe try to get some info on KP3 sysex commands, especially any that might pertain to using the LEDS and/or stop the touchpad from lighting up when it gets touched? those are two pretty flawed pieces of my code that i think could be fixed with the right know-how.

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kaoss monome UPDATED new standlone .exe

kaoss monome UPDATED new standlone .exe

i posted about this about january when i started making thes