M3 too complex, but fantastic and will sell to highest offer

[Wendel]

Hi Rob,

I have made a comparison between them the same way you propose. Though i don't know how you managed to do that if your pa2x is at the korg labs. I would again bring to your attention i am talking about DNC present in the current OS. Since you don't have your pa2x you can't make a fair analysis as yet.

Maybe you can upload some example recordings of near identical sounds played side by side to compare? Can you recommend a Program to play on my Pa2x that rivals the multilayered Orchestra Combi on my M3 for playing "star wars" or "superman" theme tunes? Can you recommend to me a drawbar based Program to play on my Pa2x to rival the two drawbar based Pipe organ Combis on my M3?

If i get some time i will upload some examples. Everything else you propose is based on your personal taste which i might not agree with, i would naturaly expect that from you as well. I personaly like Full Pipes which gives a very deep sound.

Remember. DNC on the Pa2x provides no new samples. It is just some extra velocity triggering and layering of existing samples coupled with additional controllers. Something the M3 has been able to do for a long time.

This statement does not give DNC any justice at all. I agree it is extra velocity triggering and layering with additional controllers, but what DNC provides on the Pa2x and what the M3 can do are world's apart. The DNC is by far superior and highly more realistic. Remember the pa2x has more osc assigned to each sound as compared to the M3.

However in all other respects the sound creation and controller assignment and EFX routing possibilities (using Combis) on the M3 leave the Pa2x well behind

It goes back and forth. There are things on the pa2x superior and there are things on the M3 that are superior. I remember you even said on a number of occasions that with the technology DNC provides samples are better sounding

I think that DNC capabilities on the Pa2x if used with high quality samples, can lead to better sounding and more realistically played solo instruments than on the M3.

Cheers

[Rob Sherratt]

Hi Wendel,

Well, I was one of the first to use DNC on the Pa2x back in June. Yes I don't have my Pa2x at the moment but I did use the Pa2x and M3 side by side before returning the Pa2x for repair.

Yes, I do agree that the "legato" effect on the Pa2x leads to more realistic sounding trumpets, woodwind and strings than on the M3. On the other hand the orchestra combi, and drawbar pipe organs on the M3 are fuller and more versatile than you can achieve on the Pa2x. You cannot create a pipe organ on the Pa2x with 8 drawbars, for example.

An M3 can create many more sounds and solo play capabilities using standard factory resources because there are over 360 Mbytes of factory samples and sounds with the M3 compared with less than 128 Mbytes of factory samples and sounds on the Pa2x. I hope Korg will consider adding the legato triggering effect to the M3, because that's the main difference for solo playing that it's missing compared with DNC on the Pa2x.

So there are strengths and weaknesses on both keyboards.

Best regards,
Rob

[Wendel]

Hi Rob,

Would you think assigning DNC to the existing pipe organs would lead to a more realistic sounds than the drawbar pipe organs?

An M3 can create many more sounds and solo play capabilities using standard factory resources because there are over 360 Mbytes of factory samples and sounds with the M3 compared with less than 128 Mbytes of factory samples and sounds on the Pa2x

Whilst i agree that the M3 has more sounds than the Pa2x, what benefit is there in more sounds?. My emphasis is that even if a keyboard has less sounds, if these sounds utilise the best technology available the quality would be better as compared to having more quantity and less quality (not that the quality of the M3 isn't good. It is outstanding). With DNC i think the pa2x sounds though less in quantity are better quality because of the better technology.

Looking at the whole picture, it appears the M3 users have by far better support than the pa2x users. You guys have more versatility and the upgrades you receive in terms of size and quality are much bigger than what we receive with the pa2x. I hope Korg will give us a package of sounds as large as 360 MB. Not to mention the requests made by M3 users seem to be given more attention than what we get.

I'm realy interested in hearing this pipe organ you always praise. Could you upload a mp3 of a song you have played?


Cheers