Korg piracy protection unacceptable

khalidasweila · Post by **khalidasweila** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:15 pm

I'm posting here as a new user of Korg's legacy collection, who, like it appears many other users, is very upset.

I understand that no company wants to have their software pirated, but the level of confusion, and abuse that Korg customers have to go through is 100% UNACCEPTABLE.

Besides the obvious fact that it doesn't work - I've seen the korg software for pirated download all over the place. So basically they are only harassing their loyal paying customers while people who want to steal their software do it anyway.

At least try using another company besides syncrosoft or develop your own dongle. I've worked in computer software and I know it's not that difficult. Syncrosoft puts our a very crappy product, that constantly causes problems - not the least of which is that it doesn't work out of the box.

That's no way to treat a customer Korg. Get your stuff straightened out. This is unacceptable.

khalidasweila · Post by **khalidasweila** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:06 pm

I've been using Ableton for music production for 5 years now, and no single plugin has caused more crashes than the legacy collection. I'm pretty sure it's the syncrosoft crap because other users who use the cracked version for windows report no similiar problems.

All this said, I have tremendous respect for Korg, and the legacy collection is by far the finest sounding plugin out there in my humble opinion - which is why I'm even using their software.

It's when companies get so much right and have this one small thing that's so wrong that I bother writing.

kanthos · Post by **kanthos** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:43 pm

If you're getting crashes after Korg Legacy has initialized, it's probably not the fault of Synchrosoft. I don't know what makes Synchrosoft different for Korg Legacy, and don't own Legacy, but I use two other Synchrosoft products (Cubase and Arturia Prophet V) and have never had any issues with either.

I strongly suspect the issues you're having with Legacy *are* actually due to Korg. Korg is a hardware company, not a software company, and while the two aren't mutually exclusive, even the best software companies have bugs in their programs, and I'd expect even more from a company who isn't really specialized in software. Writing complex VSTs isn't easy, and it's a mistake to think that you can take any keyboard hardware and replicate it exactly in software with little effort.

Post by **Sharp** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 7:03 pm

Have to say that I don't have any problems with my Digital legacy collection. I don't believe it's ever crashed on me.

Getting it installed was not easy though because of problems I had with Syncrosoft. In the end I did a fresh install of Vista, which I was not happy about because I didn't feel Vista was giving me any problems with anything else installed on my laptop.

Lucky enough, that did fix the problem and I haven't and an issue since.

Regards.
Sharp.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:22 pm

I dont recall any of the Korg stuff glitching or crashing on me. Plus I use syncrosoft for my DAW (Nuendo) and a few other effects. Don't recall it giving me problems.
Sorry to hear about yours.
rsp

gravehill · Post by **gravehill** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:27 pm

Sharp wrote:Have to say that I don't have any problems with my Digital legacy collection. I don't believe it's ever crashed on me.

Same here. Had no problems with installation either. Granted, the documentation could be better though.

About the ineffectiveness of Syncrosoft scheme, it does seem to be the most effective on the market. Cubase 4 uses the same and it hasn't been cracked. The same with the latest offering from VSL or Rob Papen. Cubase SX3 and Korg synths both use an older version to which there is some kind of dongle emulator. So if Korg would just bother with a small maintenance update for their synths, they could update their protection as well...

Post by **Sharp** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:59 pm

About the ineffectiveness of Syncrosoft scheme, it does seem to be the most effective on the market. Cubase 4 uses the same and it hasn't been cracked. The same with the latest offering from VSL or Rob Papen.

Can't agree with that because everything you just mentioned has been cracked.
Syncrosoft's protection does not work, and everything is available to download.

Regards.
Sharp.

gravehill · Post by **gravehill** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:28 pm

Hmm, a quick peek at a well known torrent site revealed several fake cracks for Cubase 4 and few that simply don't work and one porn film disguised as Cubase program. (These according to the user comments.)

Not sure about the Rob Papen stuff as I don't know which version numbers are the latest or ones with Syncrosoft protection...

From VSL I couldn't find any of the Syncrosoft protected products at all.

Post by **Sharp** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:01 pm

It would be quite funny to see someone trying to download VSL off a Torrent. You would die of old age before you finish.
Rapidshare is a different story though. Not that I approve in any way.

Regards.
Sharp.

khalidasweila · Post by **khalidasweila** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:01 pm

Getting it installed was not easy though because of problems I had with Syncrosoft. In the end I did a fresh install of Vista, which I was not happy about because I didn't feel Vista was giving me any problems with anything else installed on my laptop.

You shouldn't have to re-install vista to install a plugin

It doesn't crash that much, and I don't have issues with it generally, my post was mostly about the installation and the dongle. My friend has two Korg products and now has two dongles. Since the powerbooks are short USB slots - he's got to carry a hub around with him just to host the dongles... c'mon that's a little nuts!

And I agree - I've seen the Rob Papen cracked, and I've seen the korg stuff cracked all over the place -- I'm not an expert on cracking software, but from what I understand, once their in there editing the code that checks the serial, they can just as well screw with the code that checks the dongle.

Etaoin · Post by **Etaoin** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:15 am

khalidasweila wrote:My friend has two Korg products and now has two dongles.

He can't blame Korg for that. Licences can be easily transferred from one dongle to the other. There is no need to use two.

jumbojock · Post by **jumbojock** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:56 pm

I'm running KLC 1.2.2 on macbook pro through logic 8 and stand-alone. I hate to tempt fate but so far I've had no problems save for the poor description of uninstalling the previous V1 before installing the 1.2.2. The Korg uninstaller with the latter doesn't remove all the previous component files - see recent thread.

Korg support is on an 01... number instead of the 0845/0870 rip-off ones used by other companies and the guy there was really helpful, albeit he wasn't a mac expert so couldn't help 100%. Give them a call.

To thread, since the original two-day installation, I've had no problems and all my Arturia and Korg licences are on the same dongle. Hope I don't lose it now!

jj

MartinHines · Post by **MartinHines** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:19 am

khalidasweila wrote: Besides the obvious fact that it doesn't work - I've seen the korg software for pirated download all over the place. So basically they are only harassing their loyal paying customers while people who want to steal their software do it anyway.

This is incorrect. The Syncrosoft dongle has not been cracked for over two years now. The versions of KLC-DE and KLCAE-2007 that have been released in the last two years have never been cracked.

With the Syncrosoft dongle it has been my experience that you want to make sure you install the most current version of the Syncrosoft driver software.

While the PACE iLok is more popular, there are some "big names" that use the Syncrosoft dongle -- i.e. Vienna Symphonic Library, Yamaha/Steinberg, and Korg.

MartinHines · Post by **MartinHines** » Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:23 am

Sharp wrote:
Can't agree with that because everything you just mentioned has been cracked.
Syncrosoft's protection does not work, and everything is available to download.

Regards.
Sharp.

Sharp,

I monitor this stuff (for fun) and the Syncrosoft dongle has not been cracked for over two years now. This includes the latest versions of Korg software, VSL Vienna Instruments and Steinberg Cubase 4.

adub123 · Post by **adub123** » Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:36 am

I had put off purchasing both legacy collections for years due to the copy protection. I refuse to purchase any software that use a dongle or challenge/response, however I recently made the one and only exception for the legacy collections.

Korg, I absolutely LOVE these collections but I also HATE the copy protection. I find myself constantly thinking "even though I love these plugins, do I really need them?"... just because I hate the copy protection used.

What happens when/if the dongle breaks or stops working? What happens if they're discontinued or if by chance Korg goes under?

With all of my other software products I have the power to back up my licenses and retrieve them at will... but not with these, which really bugs the hell out of me.

Korg, why can't you use key file copy protection? Please respect your loyal users!

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