ketron sd1 vs pa800/pa2x sound quality

shay2165 · Post by **shay2165** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:36 pm

hy guys..

i have pa800 keyboard and i satisfied but there is something about the drums that bother me thay sound very small and not very clear.

i now someone that he have ketron sd1 and he sound very good and i what to sound like him but i need help how to fill the drum.

**in my country pepole say that korg have bad sound in drums and bass and alot of pepole use the sd1.. is it true what they say?

thank..

Lee · Post by **Lee** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:46 pm

My PA2XPRO sounds absolutely superb...but I use qualty nearfield monitor system for speakers.

Are you using the built in speakers or a high quality amp/speaker system?

Lee

shay2165 · Post by **shay2165** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:58 pm

hy lee..

i'm use speaker system protec in performens and i cant hear the snare or the hi hate (in full volume)

a.schemkes · Post by **a.schemkes** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:02 pm

I think drums are Superb on the Pa2Xpro. (it can have six layers of switching velocity! listen to snare's) It's got some very nice RX drumsets. (I think better than M3)

shay2165 · Post by **shay2165** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:16 pm

pay attention to the ketron sd1 drums and tell me what do you think

there is the link...

http://www.4shared.com/file/88185621/3c ... ed-03.html

rikkisbears · Post by **rikkisbears** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:22 pm

Hi shay,
the drums on the SD1 sound great because of the mix of " Live Drum" kits & GM kits used in most of the styles. The Gm Drum tracks add variety to the style tracks. If you get a chance to try the friends sd1, mute the gm drum tracks & listen to the Live drum tracks & vice versa, you'll hear what I mean.
The rom Live Drums appear to be based on audio drum loops, they're not like a regular midi drum kit.
Whether or not the gm kits on the sd1 sound better than on the korg, can't really comment.

As for making Korg drums sound better, I can't help, but , check into the Groove function on the Korgs, it uses drum audio loops.

Another thing to bear in mind, midi capabilities in a SD1 aren't a patch on the Korg. Style editing functions are all but non existant.
I've had my SD1+ for approx. 3 years & the SD1 is even older than that.

shay2165 wrote:hy guys..

i have pa800 keyboard and i satisfied but there is something about the drums that bother me thay sound very small and not very clear.

i now someone that he have ketron sd1 and he sound very good and i what to sound like him but i need help how to fill the drum.

**in my country pepole say that korg have bad sound in drums and bass and alot of pepole use the sd1.. is it true what they say?

thank..

shay2165 · Post by **shay2165** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:34 pm

hi rikkisbears i just what to mention that what you hear is not loop its real sample of drumkit on the sd1 .

what you can suggest me to do with the drums?

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:55 pm

Just a few tips that help me get the best possible sounds from my Pa2x:

Global -> General Controls -> Basic
set the Reverb Offset parameter to +14

Global -> Audio Setup -> Master EQ
make sure Master EQ is enabled with a tick in the box
Low Gain - 0dB
Mid Gain - 6dB
Freq - 3.7 kHz
High Gain - 12dB

From the drop down menu Write Global - Global Setup

That should fix the sound problems for most people. Of course you can play around with the Master EQ settings for weeks like I've done. But the settings above give the best posssible results for me, with using studio monitors and high quality headphones.

Best regards,
Rob

mrkorg · Post by **mrkorg** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:12 am

Hi Shay2165,

Drums come down to taste. Other than that the PA800 is miles ahead of the SD1 theoretically and practically.

rikkisbears · Post by **rikkisbears** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:44 am

Hi Shay,
I didn't mean to imply you were listening to a loop, but that they were based on a sliced loop. At least that's the impression I got from a thread on Synthzone, some time back. Maybe I misunderstood.

The SD1 does load wav drum audio loops , but unlike the Korg, it doesn't slice them, and they can't be manipulated like the korg loops. It wasn't this type of loop I was refferring to.

Anyway, they sound great.
Hoping to maybe do something similar for my PA800 with the Groove function, if I find some suitable loops. So far I've only got a few brushes.

p.s.
Thanks Rob for the tips, may also work for my PA800

shay2165 wrote:hi rikkisbears i just what to mention that what you hear is not loop its real sample of drumkit on the sd1 .

what you can suggest me to do with the drums?

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:06 am

I would really be affraid to compare PA800 to SD1 drums on a PA system.
It would be scary trust me, i had the oportunity to do so few times.

Lee · Post by **Lee** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:32 am

Nedim,
OK, I give...what do you mean by scary?

Lee

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:35 am

Scary meaning DRUMwise Korg will be lost in translation.

mrkorg · Post by **mrkorg** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:06 am

I would be afraid to compare PA800 sounds and styles to that of SD1 either with internal speakers or on a PA system. The ketron will be lost in translation.

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 3:08 am

mrkorg wrote:I would be afraid to compare PA800 sounds and styles to that of SD1 either with internal speakers or on a PA system. The ketron will be lost in translation.

You might be right about Solo sounds but Style structure...its ...hmm...
i am smarter whn i shut my mouth...some of KORG's engineers can even
answer that for you...the ones that create the synth.

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