multi-tracking with microkorg/sonar, NOT!

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wreckx
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multi-tracking with microkorg/sonar, NOT!

Post by wreckx »

i'm trying to record my microkorg using sonar home studio 7 xl

i set up a midi track in sonar, assign a program number on the microkorg, play and it records

but, i'm trying to record muti tracks of different program numbers

when i set up another midi track in sonar and try to record another program number on the microkorg it plays the previous midi track with the new program number

so sound on sound using different program numbers isn't happening

i've tried assigning different channel numbers to the different program numbers on the microkorg and assign the proper channel numbers to the inputs in sonar but i'm not getting it to work

is there a proper sequence of -shift-program number-edit select -that i should be using to assign the proper channel numbers to the program numbers?

HELP!

and thanks for any and all feedback, suggestons, etc.
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Post by killedaway »

you're not trying to get the microKORG to play more than one sound at a time on more than MIDI channel, are you? that's not possible. you can't play back a multitrack sequence with the microKORG over MIDI, as it is monotimbral. it can play multiple notes at a time, but not multiple sounds.

what you can do, is record several tracks of audio from the mK, and play those all back at the same time, since it's just prerecorded. since you're recording MIDI already, just run the sequence to your mK like you've been doing, and arm another track in your software to record the resultant audio. do this again with each separate track, and there you go.
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Post by wreckx »

thanks for the feedback

one of the problems i was having was that i picked up a mackie 1202 xlz pro at the same time i got the microkorg

as well as not knowing anything about the microkorg i knew absolutely nothing about the mackie

talk about purging oneself with fire

anyway, i quickly learned that the korg wasn't multi-timbral like my roland juno-d was

not knowing how to correctly patch the mackie i wasn't able to get the audio to go to my sonar home studio

well, that's all been resolved with an all night session

what i'm curious about now is how to record the audio tracks as midi?

adding the mixer to my "studio" mix has really raised the learning curve

now i'm learning multi-track recording (midi sequencing) virutal analog synthesizer modeling and mixing

oh boy!
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Post by X-Trade »

I tend to find the best workflow when working with audio and MIDI is to use them in stages... especially if you are using a monotimbral synthesizer or for example you want to use a specific combination or program on a triton series etc.

What I would normally do is record the MIDI, then edit it e.g. remove any mistakes, add harmonies, quantize, etc....
then send the MIDI back out to the synth and record the audio for that.
keep the MIDI but mute it, so that if you want to make any changes at a later date you can just edit the MIDI and send it back out to the synthesizer and record audio again.

if you're working with a multitimbral sound module or synth like the juno-g (great board btw) you can obviously keep using the MIDI for that for much longer before you need to record anything, but the benefit of doing it a track at a time is you get more effects from your synth (e.g. on the TR/LE there is only one insert effect, so recording a single program or combination is advantageous to trying to use that one IFX for an entire song arrangement), and you get the ability to mix down the audio afterwards on a mixer or in the box.

obviously you could also record the audio for each track on the multitimbral synth by muting all other tracks (or soloing that particular channel that you are wanting to record, i'm talking about in the synth's multi/combination/seq mode here, not on your mixer), and record each track back one by one.

the most obvious advantage of multitimbral synth is that you can edit the MIDI straight away, you don't really need to record the audio until much later in the final stages of the production process.
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