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danatkorg wrote:
craig1928 wrote:Sorry I don't have an OASYS but how exactly do you connect it up to a DAW?
Via MIDI and audio - or at least that's how I do it. This diagram is a little out of date, but it conveys the general idea:

http://www.danphillips.com/equipment_details.htm

I use Digital Performer, and have Logic as well - both great DAWs. Personally, I use the OASYS in this setup for almost all synthesis duties, due to its superior sound, and the flexibility and power of the synth engines. I'm biased, of course. :-)

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Dan what do you use to get your oasys into your daw? Clearly you don't want to loose any of Oasys great sound quality.

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Rocness wrote:
danatkorg wrote:
craig1928 wrote:Sorry I don't have an OASYS but how exactly do you connect it up to a DAW?
Via MIDI and audio - or at least that's how I do it. This diagram is a little out of date, but it conveys the general idea:

http://www.danphillips.com/equipment_details.htm

I use Digital Performer, and have Logic as well - both great DAWs. Personally, I use the OASYS in this setup for almost all synthesis duties, due to its superior sound, and the flexibility and power of the synth engines. I'm biased, of course. :-)

- Dan
Dan what do you use to get your oasys into your daw? Clearly you don't want to loose any of Oasys great sound quality.

peace
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danatkorg wrote:
Rocness wrote:
danatkorg wrote: Via MIDI and audio - or at least that's how I do it. This diagram is a little out of date, but it conveys the general idea:

http://www.danphillips.com/equipment_details.htm

I use Digital Performer, and have Logic as well - both great DAWs. Personally, I use the OASYS in this setup for almost all synthesis duties, due to its superior sound, and the flexibility and power of the synth engines. I'm biased, of course. :-)

- Dan
Dan what do you use to get your oasys into your daw? Clearly you don't want to loose any of Oasys great sound quality.

peace
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- Dan
Hi Dan,

Just curious: do you prefer the analog outs over the digital? Do you find any difference in sound quality?

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Post by kenackr »

Daz,

You hit the nail right on the head.
that while this thread is long, there aren't really that many people posting in it.
I have been thinking the same thing for a number of days now. It's also been pointed out that the whole discourse is circular and all points have been made more than once.

It's also revealing to see relatively new posters repeating the same things most of us have all said before in either the wish lists or responses to surveys , etc.

I believe we have nothing else to gain by listening to a few rabid dogs chasing their tails and recommend we cut it off.

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kenackr wrote:I believe we have nothing else to gain by listening to a few rabid dogs chasing their tails and recommend we cut it off.

Ken
Hi All:

I think the same way. We know that if this thread is closed, it will be repost for many of the users that want to make noise.

I think that nothing that they had claimed will happen now. If Korg decide some day bring an update, they only will do that. Maybe posting the new here. Maybe not.

Stop that and close all the post that's continuing with all those ridiculous "argument" (if they can be named like that). Is refreshing the counted post that ask ways of make the most of the Oasys.

I bet (Dan and Jerry could correct me if i am wrong) that regardless of the "Pentium4" CPU, the Oasys had plenty of power for stressing the synth engines.

I actually have a Korg Trinity fully loaded, but i use Logic for sequencig. If i need to bring my traks on stage, i bounce all the stuff into my scsi HD. It has 14 years, and i've never be worried about the processing power of my board. It do what is intended to do. And i am so happy with it.

If i own an Oasys, i assure that it will make me happy for many years. I hope that the Trinity won't be selled in order to make money for the O.

Guys, if you really had that amazing board, please, make some music and post your work here.

My 2 cents.

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Rocness wrote:
Do you think your set-up can rival the sound of the Oasys? Hmmm :3drofl:
I'll tell you what, how about you post a song with your logic or whatever you use and I'll post one with The Oasys. Then you will know for sure you made the right choice because the Oasys is outdated right :wink: post a song. O and have a nice day :D
Hey Rocness

I never said the OASYS was outdated, nor for that matter is my Trinity V3 which I still use and love. I'd say that the PC inside OASYS is outdated though.

But to answer your question, yeah, I think that Logic running a few nice plug-ins like Pianoteq 3, Superior Drummer, Omnisphere and some of my NI and AAS plug-ins output through the N12 can easily "rival" the sound of the OASYS. (Perhaps "rival" is not the best word to use in this instance, but we'll see) :wink:

I'll need some time before I can accept your friendly challenge though, as work has been quite hectic for me (the economy does not seem to have adversely affected me as a music teacher!) and I currently have two local musical theatre gigs on the go, but I will gladly oblige you when time allows, probably looking into July. I'll make something nice for you then :)

Until then, roll on! :3drofl:
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curvebender wrote: Just curious: do you prefer the analog outs over the digital? Do you find any difference in sound quality?
I usually work at 44.1, and the OASYS runs at 48kHz. So, I use analog. The OASYS I/O is great, and so is the 1224, so I don't worry about it...

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ricky recordo wrote:
Rocness wrote:
Do you think your set-up can rival the sound of the Oasys? Hmmm :3drofl:
I'll tell you what, how about you post a song with your logic or whatever you use and I'll post one with The Oasys. Then you will know for sure you made the right choice because the Oasys is outdated right :wink: post a song. O and have a nice day :D
Hey Rocness

I never said the OASYS was outdated, nor for that matter is my Trinity V3 which I still use and love. I'd say that the PC inside OASYS is outdated though.

But to answer your question, yeah, I think that Logic running a few nice plug-ins like Pianoteq 3, Superior Drummer, Omnisphere and some of my NI and AAS plug-ins output through the N12 can easily "rival" the sound of the OASYS. (Perhaps "rival" is not the best word to use in this instance, but we'll see) :wink:

I'll need some time before I can accept your friendly challenge though, as work has been quite hectic for me (the economy does not seem to have adversely affected me as a music teacher!) and I currently have two local musical theatre gigs on the go, but I will gladly oblige you when time allows, probably looking into July. I'll make something nice for you then :)

Until then, roll on! :3drofl:
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Hey Ricky it's all in good fun I like to bring out the music in people.
Actually I have and love Logic Studio and I need Omnisphere bad.
Oasys is a great instrument we would like to see reach it's full potential
but it doesn't matter what you use as long as your having fun.
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Post by Daz »

ricky recordo wrote:I'd always maintained that the OASYS was essentially nothing more than the sum of its parts - a standard (and now outdated) PC with a nice interface, a decent keyboard, a cool arpeggiator, a lame sequencer and an ok display, all built into one fairly attractive box.
You didn't mention the Oasys synthesis/effects software. That is what actually differentiates it from just being a PC with a nice interface, decent keyboard, cool arp etc. Just as Mac OS X is what separates my Intel based Mac from being just another PC.

It's a damn shame there won't be anymore of that synthesis/effects software coming to the Oasys ....

As I said earlier I am surprised so few people are popping up to express that sentiment.
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Somebody in an earlier post said it should be a matter of Honor for
korg to upgrade the sequencer. I feel the same.Korg Japan where is your honor. :x
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Post by ricky recordo »

Daz wrote: You didn't mention the Oasys synthesis/effects software. That is what actually differentiates it from just being a PC with a nice interface, decent keyboard, cool arp etc. Just as Mac OS X is what separates my Intel based Mac from being just another PC.
Hi Daz,

True, dat... OASYS does have some nice synthesis capabilities and FX, but the ROMpler bit never impressed me much in the OASYS (or the M3 for that matter - I returned the M3 after keeping it in the lounge for a couple of months... it never integrated into my studio).

yeah Rocness, you'll love Omnisphere... it's a brilliant achievement in synthesis (as well as a wicked good ROMpler to boot) :) My students feature it heavily in their soundtrack work. And talking about "the music", my youngest daughter played at her high school's annual Riverboat Coffee House tonight along with some of my piano and guitar students, and man oh man there is soooooo much talent and great music being written by these kids. Some have already recorded at my studio, others are booked in for July and August. Show started at 7 and went to 10:45, one song per act; I was blown away by how many great original songs these kids are writing. Hi fidelity was not a priority at this venue, high emotion and energy certainly was. loved every minute of it and was so proud of my kid, her friends and my students. That's what it's all about alright...the music!

Here's a vid of my old studio...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5rjkl6p_8k

I have since moved it into a new location at street level - pics...

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2vwwyug&s=5
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edited to add links to new studio pics
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Daz wrote:As I said earlier I am surprised so few people are popping up to express that sentiment.
We´re walking in circles here, but I must have said this 3 or 4 times just in this topic, and felt like I was talking to the wall. IMO, that´s what the open architecture is all about: getting new EFx, EXi, EXs.......... free or not.

Just 4 years of OA. I thought that "it gives you an open system, so you can have new technology inside of your Oasys for years to come" meant at least a decade. I guess people are too focused on the sequencer to realize that, and Korg must be loving it.

Anyway, that´s my last post here. Thanks to all involved in the creation of this fantastic instrument! It pisses me off the fact that the OA is over so soon, but I´ll move on.
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Daz wrote:You didn't mention the Oasys synthesis/effects software. That is what actually differentiates it from just being a PC with a nice interface, decent keyboard, cool arp etc. Just as Mac OS X is what separates my Intel based Mac from being just another PC.

It's a damn shame there won't be anymore of that synthesis/effects software coming to the Oasys ....

As I said earlier I am surprised so few people are popping up to express that sentiment.
+1

I totally agree.
It's a shame. I want more goodies to come also.
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zolhof wrote:
Daz wrote:As I said earlier I am surprised so few people are popping up to express that sentiment.
We´re walking in circles here, but I must have said this 3 or 4 times just in this topic, and felt like I was talking to the wall. IMO, that´s what the open architecture is all about: getting new EFx, EXi, EXs.......... free or not.

Just 4 years of OA. I thought that "it gives you an open system, so you can have new technology inside of your Oasys for years to come" meant at least a decade.
It wasn't my intention to express myself in this topic again, because I want to create sounds and tracks on the big O. And focussing to much on negative energy gets in my way.

But I don't want to give the idea that I don't care about what's happening.

I won't repeat all over again. But I am very disappointed, and what I mentioned earlier, I think Korg made false promises. Even on this moment Korg is telling us at there site: 'OASYS is not only an entirely new instrument, but a completely new platform to support Korg innovation for years to come.' And they are mentioning new ex1,exs and exf.

On the other hand, maybe I am missing something because in the official statement of Korg they only announced the end of the production, not the end of software development, or is this not true?
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Daz wrote:
It's a damn shame there won't be anymore of that synthesis/effects software coming to the Oasys ....

As I said earlier I am surprised so few people are popping up to express that sentiment.

From The Japan discontinue Oasys THREAD
Synergy wrote:


why not Korg release the source code to the public so that others could come up with a third party app for the Oasys.
That's what i answered, Daz:

well, i'm not so happy with what's happening for the oasys right now, but i really do hope they won't "open" it to third party, because, be sure that we will see the whole oasys software for free, or for so little money in our computer quickly, and i don't want the money i invest in the oasys to go like smoke would.

OASYS is the most powerfull keyboard and great sounding (i say keyboard, not workstation). I fully understand that it's not manufactured anymore. i do not understand why the development is stopped (don't talk to me about more patches). the only thing about open architecture we saw is mod7 and lac1, nothing else, all the rest is presets, and exs3 could have develop for any keyboard which has a sampler (a lot). so i'm quite disapointed on this point, i wished we could have seen more exis, new effects (not presets), new seq, and things that we can not even imagine.

it's about the crisis ? well the crisis is not here since a year and a half. if it's about the crisis, i hope we won't see a better keyboard, cheaper, in several month, cause i will take it as a big lie from korg. if it's about the crisis, we should not see such a keyboard from korg until 2 or 3 years.

That's my point of view, and i'm totally not angry at korg's representatives who are on this forum. i have a lot of respect for you guys, you have made a fabulous work with the oasys, unfortunately it seems that you can not finish it.



Now, i remember that Dan said he has worked almost all his adult life on the oasys. Since we did not have (except 1.3.3, but i don't think it took a year and a half, maybe i'm wrong) a big update since a year and a half, i was wondering if there was something being working on, even maybe near to be released and if it was ONLY stopped because of economic situation or if it became difficult (due to hardware) to add new exis or whatever in the oasys ?

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