Official statement on the status and future of the OASYS

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Daz wrote:Realistically the 25 or so people here that are offering to pre-pay for sequencer updates isn't enough to make Korg change their minds.
totally agreed!

as I stated some pages before:
we as users should organize and present Korg a list of users that subsribed for a preepaid update.
Of course it would be the easiest way for KORG to send according to the korguser.net registration a mail asking for this to all registrated OASYS users, but I don´t expect this. Unless we stay passive ("25 or so people") we won´t get anything not even an answer.

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Re: Official statement on the status and future of the OASYS

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jerrythek wrote:
We have recently released some system tweaks/bug fixes and have plans for some more ongoing sound support, like the new sounds we just released.

We constantly get ideas/suggestions/requests for more features for the OASYS, but we cannot promise that any of these can be delivered.

As always, we will announce further support only when it becomes available.
The door is defiantly not closed on the Oasys from what is quoted here.
We will just have to wait patiently in the hope of getting the much needed sequencer update, even if its in 12 months time when the recession is over.
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weymouthfox wrote:
Korg have the chance to finish the Oasys project properly with one final hurrah, keep their loyal customers happy, and get abit of money back.
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SoulBe wrote:
Daz wrote:Realistically the 25 or so people here that are offering to pre-pay for sequencer updates isn't enough to make Korg change their minds.
totally agreed!

as I stated some pages before:
we as users should organize and present Korg a list of users that subsribed for a preepaid update.
Of course it would be the easiest way for KORG to send according to the korguser.net registration a mail asking for this to all registrated OASYS users, but I don´t expect this. Unless we stay passive ("25 or so people") we won´t get anything not even an answer.
25 to 30 people its not a bad number to begin with, given the fact that not averybody interested in sequencer enhancements is posting, only those of them who offer a direct pre paid order sheet to Korg are doing so.

As weymouthfox point out, once the word gets out and it appears on Korgs websites, sure there will be more people interested.
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weymouthfox wrote:
jerrythek wrote:
We have recently released some system tweaks/bug fixes and have plans for some more ongoing sound support, like the new sounds we just released.

We constantly get ideas/suggestions/requests for more features for the OASYS, but we cannot promise that any of these can be delivered.

As always, we will announce further support only when it becomes available.
The door is defiantly not closed on the Oasys from what is quoted here.
We will just have to wait patiently in the hope of getting the much needed sequencer update, even if its in 12 months time when the recession is over.
Hello weymouthfox

I aso took the same impression you have reading Jerry´s words on the official statement, that the door is defiantly not closed on the Oasys at all.

We can just wait patiently in the hope of getting the much needed sequencer update and some others, but maybe the key fact needed for it all to start is seeing that peaople are still willing to pay for updates, even at a pre paid form formula if needed. As time goes by more people are adding their vote for it, as we see.

Theres still a market for the OASYS updates, and wide or not it is there, and it is a loyal one: its users are willing to pay a price, as an example, even in advance, for features that Korg delivered to the M3 for FREE (like the Sequencer), and also as a door to develop new ones.
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Ive just been speaking to the main director of one of the UK's most respected Music Technology chains and he told me that he was talking to one of the big wigs from Korg Japan at the German music exhibition and that he stated that there is another OS update in the works and further support for at least 18 months to 2 years.

This director has just bought most of the remaining UK Oasys stock.

Can Dan or Jerry shed any light on this?

Many thanks.
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weymouthfox wrote:Ive just been speaking to the main director of one of the UK's most respected Music Technology chains and he told me that he was talking to one of the big wigs from Korg Japan at the German music exhibition and that he stated that there is another OS update in the works and further support for at least 18 months to 2 years.

This director has just bought most of the remaining UK Oasys stock.

Can Dan or Jerry shed any light on this?

Many thanks.
Great news if it is true. However, I will not hold out any hope. As far as I am concerned, apart from the next edition of 256 sounds, my Oasys is not going to receive any updates in the future, and if it does recieve an update, then that will be a BIG bonus.

If a project is running at the moment, it is not a given that it will be completed, hence the reason why neither Dan nor Jerry will shed any light even if they wanted to.

Of course, the cynic in me also thinks that they would say that updates are coming to sell the remaining stock.
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rbox wrote:Why Korg dont reduce the Price for the last Oasys charge?
A discontiniued Product with no futuresupport is not worth to pay 8000$.
Look other electronic Products are also reduced 50% or so like Nikons
high end cameras after some years.

The trouble is that cameras are a much more competitive market. If there were comparable high end synths getting price cuts from other manufactures, you can be sure that Korg would follow suit.
And with the cameras, hopefully they have not purchased all their HW at one time, years ahead at a premium. If I've understood the situation, Korg stocked up all the HW at one time?
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weymouthfox wrote:Ive just been speaking to the main director of one of the UK's most respected Music Technology chains and he told me that he was talking to one of the big wigs from Korg Japan at the German music exhibition and that he stated that there is another OS update in the works and further support for at least 18 months to 2 years.

This director has just bought most of the remaining UK Oasys stock.

Can Dan or Jerry shed any light on this?

Many thanks.
As stated previously, great news if it were true; another OS update in the works and up to two years of support.

However, I doubt someone at Korg would confirm this, even if its happening.

Thanx for sharing and regards.
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yamex5 wrote:
rbox wrote:Why Korg dont reduce the Price for the last Oasys charge?
A discontiniued Product with no futuresupport is not worth to pay 8000$.
Look other electronic Products are also reduced 50% or so like Nikons
high end cameras after some years.

The trouble is that cameras are a much more competitive market. If there were comparable high end synths getting price cuts from other manufactures, you can be sure that Korg would follow suit.
And with the cameras, hopefully they have not purchased all their HW at one time, years ahead at a premium. If I've understood the situation, Korg stocked up all the HW at one time?
Maybe you are right.

But what happend with the Bugs? One example, tomorrow i buy an Oasys
and after a week i find some Bugs, so that it can pull down the workflow, so they can fixed but they didn`t because the support is stopped, like what happend with the Alesis Fusion, when they mean it´s discontinuid it means also the bugfixing??
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Post by Mike Conway »

The OASYS came out before the Fusion, so Korg was able to work on bugs for 4 years. By contrast, the Fusion didn't have nearly as much time to mature. No matter, I'm crossing my fingers with the "18 more months of support" rumor.
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The OASYS came out before the Fusion, so Korg was able to work on bugs for 4 years. By contrast, the Fusion didn't have nearly as much time to mature. No matter, I'm crossing my fingers with the "18 more months of support" rumor.
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Circuit board anyone?

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One of the Korg-dealers here in Norway told me that one of the reasons for the OASYS to "die", was that one of the circuit-boards was no longer available to Korg. Sounds weird to me....... Not a good statement for the future maintainence of "the big O" if this is correct!
Does anybody here know i this is true or just bull####?
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I don't know about other internal circuit boards per se, but the optional EXB-DI (ADAT in/out) input output port was discontinued when Alesis stopped making the ADAT converter chip.
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Trommis wrote:One of the Korg-dealers here in Norway told me that one of the reasons for the OASYS to "die", was that one of the circuit-boards was no longer available to Korg. Sounds weird to me....... Not a good statement for the future maintainence of "the big O" if this is correct!
Does anybody here know i this is true or just bull####?
Hi Trommis.

Some people have quoted that same theory over here months ago to explain why it is not going to be manufactured anymore, and if you ask me, it makes sense to me.

Its perfeclty possible that it may be hard to get high volumes of some of the OASYS parts, as these are computer based parts with an average time of more than 6 years in the regular computer market, or even more. We al know how fast pieces get ancient in the computer world, and that is so much time for regular PC components.

But regarding the reasons for the OASYS pltatform to "die", it has nothing to do with it, IMHO, or it would have to be, at least.

The hadware may be discontinued; ok, we all can understand the reasons and must assume it. But it doesnt have to be this way to the development of the plattform and the OS updates of the system.
This hardware is still capable of so much more, even when this system is designed to be upgraded by adding code to it. The same can be said to keep some kind of development for the entire OASYS series in the future.

And lets face it, as it stands, the OASYS as a workstation tool is few steps below than what its actually out there in the market.

And thats not an oppinion, it is fact.

I was in my local dealer the other day, I was digging the Fantom G capabilities in the sequencer area, specially its editing features, and I was seeing as well the great DAW integration the Motif XS has, and its remote control of Cubase.

I think is fair to say Korg is aware of all this, if not they woudnt gave the M3 an update to improve its sequencer, even when it has a very good DAW integration fuctionality, that the OASYS lacks.

The OASYS, therefore, even if it was going to be discontinued, needed as well some kind of sequencer update, just to stand the market standard nowdays, even comparing what Korg did with their other WS, which needed the internal sequencer less than its big brother thanks to its DAW possiblities.

And I think its not fair to read comments like the one Stephen Kay did not long ago, that some of us would like to see Korg broke in order get our Sequencer update released. Please Stephen, not that, and not from you.

First, IMHO no one here would like to see Korg broke under any circumstance, and second, I dont think for a sigle moment that Korg would be on backrupt if they devoted some time to develop the OASYS sequencer, as they were not in bankrupt when they had time to enhanced the M3 sequencer as they did.
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