Making or Importing Reason Patches Onto a R3

[Thisisyesterday]

Hey guys, im new to this whole synth patch editing stuff, and I really some of the sounds on reason so is there anyway i can import them easily?

Any help would be great.

Thanks,
Mike

[tpantano]

Hey guys, im new to this whole synth patch editing stuff, and I really some of the sounds on reason so is there anyway i can import them easily?

Any help would be great.

Thanks,
Mike

*in b4 xmlguy lecture *

Anyways, you won't be able to simply transfer them over, you'll have to learn how to recreate them. Some forum members like xmlguy or x-trade might be able to help you get started, possible axxim although he has a radias now. Anyways, it's a skill that's going to take a lot of practice... I've been working on it for 2-3 months now and haven't gotten too far, but I know the way around the synth.

[Thisisyesterday]

Ok thanks,
I guess ill just have to fool around with it,
ill just use the Program editor
it looks like itll be easier that way

[tpantano]

Ok thanks,
I guess ill just have to fool around with it,
ill just use the Program editor
it looks like itll be easier that way

Easier, unless of course your USB cable is annoyingly noisy.
But, I tried 'just fooling around' with settings and got nowhere, once some of the various waves settings and effects were explained to me I got a bit further. I'm assuming you haven't patched a synth before.

However, if you provide a sound example of some specific reason sounds you want on your R3 I and especially other forum members may be able to help.

[axxim]

@tpantano:

Yes I have my Radias now!
But this not means that I will stop to give hints and support as far as I can recreate it. My first impression of the Radias is WOW. But it's Sound soul is very similar (I would say 90%) to the R3 and as far as you don't use all 4 timbres of the Radias for a mega-layered-pad, the portability to the R3 is given in most the cases. If you know a good sound (err.. sorry patch) for the Radias, then you could install it's editor, load the patch and "transcribe" the settings to the R3 editor. I am doing this in the inverse way to transcribe my R3 patches to the Radias. My first two are near to ready but a bit tuning is rerquired. It seems that some numerical parameters between both are a bit different scaled between both.

@Thisisyesterday:

What do you mean with reason? As far as I know it is a music production SW like any others with some SW-Synths and Romplers. So you have to be more specific on what you want.
And yes, tpantano is right, he is telling you the things we told him 2 or 3 months ago and he has done good advances on that!
And yes again, the editor is the best way to go!

[X-Trade]

It should be fairly easy to copy most of the parameters from Subtractor or Thor into a Radias or R3, however there are still differences - that is what makes them different synths.

A synth patch on a modern digital synthesizer (of any kind, and I suppose most digital programmable effects processors, etc too) is simply a table or list of settings for each of that synth's parameters. So they can never directly translate.

For example, I wrote recently about how the triton HI engine is based on choosing sources for a destination - that means selecting a source for each destination, rather than giving each source a single destination.

some synths may have two filters, some may have one, some have up to four or even more oscillators, some have an assortment of digital waveforms, some have only purely analog-type waveforms. some have continuously variable waveshapes, where you can blend from for example a sawtooth to a triangle... some have entirely different ways of making sound (e.g. Kawai K5 and K5000 additive/fourier synthesis, where you set a level or envelope for each harmonic, or square-wave organs, etc).

So whilst the actual parameters and results can be the same, their ranges, the quantity or arrangement of them may be different. you can have different sets of parameters that achieve the same result. That said, it is fairly easy to see for example that the cutoff on a patch is 75%, and the resonance is something else, and its a lowpass filter, take that to the synthesizer you want to recreate it on, and then adjust by ear.

Luckily the R3 and Radias MMT is fairly flexible, but the best results will come when you make your own patches specifically for them using all of the available features, rather than limiting yourself to imitating parts of other synthesizers.

consider though that trying to load a patch from one synth directly to another is very similar to trying to open a text document in paint - its not going to work...

[xmlguy]

I agree with all the replies so far! I only will add that converting the patch manually is a good educational process and an opportunity to improve the patch to be better than the original. Nearly any patch can be improved, if merely to make it better to suit your own purposes.