amplifying the m50

[McHale]

yes it's powered and the amp is removable...

[xmlguy]

yes it's powered and the amp is removable...

Actually, the MSR 250 is a step below most powered speakers these days, in that it isn't bi-amped and uses a passive crossover. The MSR400 is more comparable to most powered speakers in its price class. But they are not even close to the QSC K-series in capability.

[dekturrr]

yes it's powered and the amp is removable...

Actually, the MSR 250 is a step below most powered speakers these days, in that it isn't bi-amped and uses a passive crossover. The MSR400 is more comparable to most powered speakers in its price class. But they are not even close to the QSC K-series in capability.

which is longer in the industry of speakers?
RCF or QSC?

[StudioMan]

For a decent sounding key's amp (ACTUALLY FOR A BUDGET BASS PRACTICE AMP IT'S AWESOME) Check out the Ampeg BA115.

Me personally live, I just use the stage monitors, but I actually play Bass, and maybe 12 to 15 tunes per night I play keys.

But if I'm having a Jam session, my little BA115 sound's REALLY good, for what it is. Tilt back, simple, durable, all the stuff you need for a keys amp.

I have 2 sets of the EON G2s. Once in my studio, for "Jamming" & one set for live work in smaller Venues. They are nice, but to buy just one for a key's monitor, I don't know. Maybe...

I I also have a set of the Mackie SR450 (I can't recall the letters, but the "450" is correct). For REALLY small venues, these work GREAT... The key to these, if your using a low volume, there is BARELY any hiss at all...
The G2's ROCK, but they have a hiss if your trying to keep DBs WAY low. SOMETHING to consider if your using in a normal household.

For making sounds, I use my reference monitors... Doing this seems to allow the M50 sounds to sound the best on all setups. (Lately, we have only been doing venues with house systems, so this is pretty important to me currently).

But on a budget, and I was given only one choice using the actual experience I have had, I'd TRULY go with the Ampeg BA115 ( I could be wrong on the letters, but the "115" is correct. I think I only paid $350, for a budget amp, it really does sound GREAT!

I've recently switch my bass rig over to an amp by a company most haven't hear of "MarkBass". I haven't tried it for my Keys, but WAY to pricey just to buy as a Key's monitor (But for a bass amp that weighs nothing, MarkBass can NOT be beat)! I have been curious to hear my M50 thru this amp. I just haven't had a chance to pull it from the trailer and bring it in & check it out. ANYWAYS!

I hope my 2 cents helps someone.

Mike

[holdsg]

For a decent sounding key's amp (ACTUALLY FOR A BUDGET BASS PRACTICE AMP IT'S AWESOME) Check out the Ampeg BA115.

Me personally live, I just use the stage monitors, but I actually play Bass, and maybe 12 to 15 tunes per night I play keys.

But if I'm having a Jam session, my little BA115 sound's REALLY good, for what it is. Tilt back, simple, durable, all the stuff you need for a keys amp.

I have 2 sets of the EON G2s. Once in my studio, for "Jamming" & one set for live work in smaller Venues. They are nice, but to buy just one for a key's monitor, I don't know. Maybe...

I I also have a set of the Mackie SR450 (I can't recall the letters, but the "450" is correct). For REALLY small venues, these work GREAT... The key to these, if your using a low volume, there is BARELY any hiss at all...
The G2's ROCK, but they have a hiss if your trying to keep DBs WAY low. SOMETHING to consider if your using in a normal household.

For making sounds, I use my reference monitors... Doing this seems to allow the M50 sounds to sound the best on all setups. (Lately, we have only been doing venues with house systems, so this is pretty important to me currently).

But on a budget, and I was given only one choice using the actual experience I have had, I'd TRULY go with the Ampeg BA115 ( I could be wrong on the letters, but the "115" is correct. I think I only paid $350, for a budget amp, it really does sound GREAT!

I've recently switch my bass rig over to an amp by a company most haven't hear of "MarkBass". I haven't tried it for my Keys, but WAY to pricey just to buy as a Key's monitor (But for a bass amp that weighs nothing, MarkBass can NOT be beat)! I have been curious to hear my M50 thru this amp. I just haven't had a chance to pull it from the trailer and bring it in & check it out. ANYWAYS!

I hope my 2 cents helps someone.

Mike

+1000 on the Markbass as a bass amp. that's my rig too for bass. I own a LM TUBE 500 and put it thru the Traveler 2X10 and 1X15. makes me smile at least.

I actually played my keyboard thru it once, just for five minutes, thru the 2X10 cabinet, and it sounded OK, nice growling bass when called on

yeah, a bit pricey for keys only. Still owe this thread a review of the newly acquired QSC K10, and I hope to get to play thru it later today.

[holdsg]

Was finally able to spend some quality time today with the M-50 and my new QSC K10 powered speaker. The K10 with 10-inch woofer, is roughly the same size as my other powered speaker, a Yamaha MSR250. Having A/B'd them today, I find the QSC is better in almost every way than the Yamaha, which is a good speaker. I was hearing nuances from the keyboard that I didn't hear before. With the volume from both speakers at noon, the QSC was noticeably louder (by about 25%) and the sound was fuller. In this case, the extra $ is worth it. Now I have two excellent speakers to play thru, and I am a happy camper. The real test will be next time I play live in a band setting, but should confirm the thesis here.

[McHale]

Good info. If I ever need to replace my StagePAS 250M's, I'll check out the QSC first.

[dekturrr]

this is a very informative and a very useful thread,

i wish there' someone who could do a head to head comparison with the RCF art310a and the QSC k10.

[dekturrr]

Was finally able to spend some quality time today with the M-50 and my new QSC K10 powered speaker. The K10 with 10-inch woofer, is roughly the same size as my other powered speaker, a Yamaha MSR250. Having A/B'd them today, I find the QSC is better in almost every way than the Yamaha, which is a good speaker. I was hearing nuances from the keyboard that I didn't hear before. With the volume from both speakers at noon, the QSC was noticeably louder (by about 25%) and the sound was fuller. In this case, the extra $ is worth it. Now I have two excellent speakers to play thru, and I am a happy camper. The real test will be next time I play live in a band setting, but should confirm the thesis here.

I understand that weight is not the only factor when we talk about portability.
So in your experience which of the 2 is more portable and heavier?

[holdsg]

I could not tell an appreciable difference in weight between the Yamaha and QSC. Specs on the Yamaha says its 31 lbs (14 kg) and the QSC is 32 lbs (14.5 kg). Both have handy handles built in, the Yamaha on top back, the QSC on top and side. And the used QSC I bought came with the carry bag, which I suppose makes it a little easier to schlep around (includes pocket for power chord as well) and is slighlty padded for more protection. Since I baby my equipment, and don't usually let other people move it, not much concern there.

I didn't mention before that the QSC has this DEEP switch on the back, which is like a bass boost. I was afraid to engage that one, as I didn't want the walls to start rattling, but it may come in handy at a gig.

[dekturrr]

I could not tell an appreciable difference in weight between the Yamaha and QSC. Specs on the Yamaha says its 31 lbs (14 kg) and the QSC is 32 lbs (14.5 kg). Both have handy handles built in, the Yamaha on top back, the QSC on top and side. And the used QSC I bought came with the carry bag, which I suppose makes it a little easier to schlep around (includes pocket for power chord as well) and is slighlty padded for more protection. Since I baby my equipment, and don't usually let other people move it, not much concern there.

I didn't mention before that the QSC has this DEEP switch on the back, which is like a bass boost. I was afraid to engage that one, as I didn't want the walls to start rattling, but it may come in handy at a gig.

what mixer did you use?
or did you just put it in directly?

[holdsg]

thus far avoided having to buy a mixer. it might be in my near future, if I add a second board, for example, but so far doing OK just going direct from board to speakers.

[dekturrr]

Hi Guys,

There's good news for me...
the RCF ART310a from USD 935, it has a 30% down to just
USD 652 a piece.

This is against the K10's USD 1000 per pc.

Do you guys think the QSC K10 is comparable to the Art series of the RCF?

[dekturrr]

I could not tell an appreciable difference in weight between the Yamaha and QSC. Specs on the Yamaha says its 31 lbs (14 kg) and the QSC is 32 lbs (14.5 kg). Both have handy handles built in, the Yamaha on top back, the QSC on top and side. And the used QSC I bought came with the carry bag, which I suppose makes it a little easier to schlep around (includes pocket for power chord as well) and is slighlty padded for more protection. Since I baby my equipment, and don't usually let other people move it, not much concern there.

I didn't mention before that the QSC has this DEEP switch on the back, which is like a bass boost. I was afraid to engage that one, as I didn't want the walls to start rattling, but it may come in handy at a gig.

i reread this thread many times and I've recalled from memory that the Bass Boost function is good if you want a really good bass boost during low volumes. I just don't know if it is also good during high volumes, perhaps no.
hehe

I'm still hoping for that RFC user's review.

=)

[dekturrr]

guess what guys,

i already have the k10!

wow!!!!