No future plans for current PA Series...!!!

[dimitris]

Hi folks,

As already had wrote some times during the past years and now again, Korg has run out of ideas! No USB expansion boards, no new OS, no anything!!!
I am curious when the next model (Pa3X) will be released and what promises for the future will Korg make???
I am very satisfied with Pa2X but, Korg does not make any further progress...!!!
Why????


Regards,
Dimitris

[Sharp]

Hi Dimitris.

KORG has some super creative people working for them who are equally passionate about everything they do. I really wouldn’t be worried about KORG running out of idea's.

I'm confident that they will not fail to impress when the time is right.

Regards
Sharp.

[alex_70]

Correcting the existing bugs b4 releasing anything new ?
No idea for a new OS ? I have ton ... the OS of the PA500/800/2xpro is so badly coded, there is so much that could be improved, that I just can hope for a new OS ...
Don't get me wrong, I know the crap is the same at Roland and Yam ($$$$$)

[karmathanever]

What bugs? Or do you mean "features" or "changes" you would like?

OS of the PA500/800/2xpro is so badly coded, there is so much that could be improved

You should suggest your OS code enhancements to their development team then maybe they will produce a better level of "crap" than "Roland and Yam" (as you say).


("crap" was your word, not mine)

[musselasse]

Hi folks,

As already had wrote some times during the past years and now again, Korg has run out of ideas! No USB expansion boards, no new OS, no anything!!!
I am curious when the next model (Pa3X) will be released and what promises for the future will Korg make???
I am very satisfied with Pa2X but, Korg does not make any further progress...!!!
Why????


Regards,
Dimitris

Hi

Have you heard the new yamaha Tyros 4

I am wondering about KORG....
They have the same styles since KORG I3 and I30

They must make a new styles overall
Yamaha is up to date. And a much larger style possibilites MUCH MORE
And brilliante sounds..
I´m waitning for october when it comes to Sweden....

Kind regards/Lasse

[alex_70]

I mean bugs and also things that could be greatly improved (because it is so dumb the way it is).
I have also a Triton classic at home, and I can tell you that the sequencer part of the triton is the same than the one used in the PA series. But believe me, what was working in the Triton 10 years ago doesn't work anymore in the PA !!

In Sequencer mode, if you mute a track, it is not only muting the notes playing from the sequencer (that would be the normal way), it is also muting anything you may play on the keyboard ! That is absolutly stupid, you can't even practice before launching a record. There is not such a problem in the Triton (people at Korg were more clever back then ?). I consider that a bug. If it is not, just tell me what is the benefit of muting everything.

In sequencer mode, you cannot start recording directly. You always have to deal with at least a 1 bar pre-count b4 recording. That is a big loss of time if you don't need it at the moment. On the old Triton you can chose to have a precount or not (in any sequencer in fact ! even on my old Roland D20).

Let say you're working on your sequence from measure 52 (or anything else). You set the "LOCATE" box and put the "52" for the measure. Now you want to go at the "step backing sequence" page, but the measure is now located at "1" !! You have to re-enter again the measure you are working at ! The "Backing sequence" mode and "multitrack sequencer" don't have this problem. Still losing time !

Again, in the " Step backing sequence", just try it, the keyboard is not functionning anymore ! No sound is produced if you press a key, it is completly muted! Do Korg think we don't need to hear anything in that mode, duh !

There was an UNDO switch on the Triton (the name of the button was "COMPARE" but that was the same). This kind of switch on the panel is really important, it's a real gain of time in your work. In the PA you have to go in the menu and sub menu to select and confirm the UNDO ! Come on, that was too much to add this switch in the PA ?? Do I have to remind you how much does this baby cost ?

I'm always comparing the PA to the Triton. That's because the OS of the PA directly comes from the Triton. It exacly look the same for anything. But when you can do some serious work on the Triton, you're always asking yourself where has gone the 10 years of improvement that should be included in the OS of the PA's !
The OS of the PA's reacts quicker than the one of the Triton because the CPU is better, but where is the gain of speed with all these stupid things ?

Just one last word, I know that is not a bug, but come on, there is at least 70 switches on the panel, but maybe 2 or 3 of them are used as a shortcut. There is so many situations where you would be happy to just push a switch instead of going in menus and sub-menus. In computers you have shortcuts for nearly anything. In the OS, that's just a few lines to add in the code, no more.
Please don't tell me I should use Cubase or a computer to do some sequences. The sequencer of the PA is really powerfull and that is absolutly enough to do most things. But saddly you can't really feel it was designed by enthousiast people. That is really sad.
I really think this keyboard deserves a new update, and I really don't see why I would buy something new ...
Don't get me wrong I love this keyboard. I just hope Korg could pay more attention to all those details.


PS : I was talking about Roland and Yamaha, because I have keyboards from these company at home. That's amazing how those companies are absolutly unable to do a check for bugs b4 releasing anything. One year after the last update of the Roland Prelude and GW-8, there is always this amazing bug that make you can't use the replace mode in the recording section. It always come back to mix/overdubing mode. That makes the sequencer nearly unusable. A lot of people are complaining, but Roland absolutly doesn't care.

[karmathanever]

Hi Alex

It is interesting to hear your comments and views - thanks.
I guess we all have a different emphasis on different needs.
A bug is only when the keyboard does not perform to specifications.

Just one last word, I know that is not a bug, but come on, there is at least 70 switches on the panel, but maybe 2 or 3 of them are used as a shortcut. There is so many situations where you would be happy to just push a switch instead of going in menus and sub-menus. In computers you have shortcuts for nearly anything. In the OS, that's just a few lines to add in the code, no more.

I have no intention of arguing with your points but just to reference one point you made regarding shortcuts - the PA has many shortcuts - I use them all the time and I agree that if you did have go through all the menus every time it would be a nightmare but on the PA, you don't have to.

All the best

Pete

[karmathanever]

Have you heard the new yamaha Tyros 4
I am wondering about KORG....
They have the same styles since KORG I3 and I30

Only partially true there are many many new styles betwwen the i3 and the PA2Xpro - however, ironically, I still load and use many of my i3 & i30 & PA1XPro styles which are NOT on my PA2X

Look at the Tyros and PSR-S series - most of the styles are identical. I read that the Tyros 4 has 50 new styles - cool!! but does that mean the remaining 450 are from the Tyros 3? Most likely yes, if you follow Yamaha's upgrade patterns - Yamaha generally makes very small changes in their styles.

If Korg came out with the PA3Xpro (for example) with all totally NEW styles, I immediately would be concerned about the RAM capacity to load all the styles I currently use from the i3, i30, PA1Xpro and PA2XPro. But then, to a new owner of Korg PA it would be mind-blowing and not such an issue.

Just my 2 cents worth relating to my keyboard requirements and situation.

Cheers

Pete

[dimitris]

Hi Dimitris.

KORG has some super creative people working for them who are equally passionate about everything they do. I really wouldn’t be worried about KORG running out of idea's.

I'm confident that they will not fail to impress when the time is right.

Regards
Sharp.

Hi Sharp,

I don't express any bad feelings for those that work at Korg Company! They are real pros!! But, this is the first time I see nothing during the last 2 years for the PA Series!!

[karmathanever]

Hi Dimitris

But, this is the first time I see nothing during the last 2 years for the PA Series

Yes - I know what you mean - a long silence eh?
My guess (I repeat "guess") is that they will be watching the market and planning a good upgrade. They have the Tyros 4 and Audya (now stable I believe) to take as competition although I don't think they have much work in competing with the Tyros 4.

As Sharp says "...when the time is right.." - I am also guessing next year.

Cheers

Pete

[WAVEXtractor]

Next yr Q1-Q2 should be out

[Lee]

WaveExtractor...
What makes you think so?
Lee

[karmathanever]

Perhaps...
NAMM 2011 - 13-16 January 2011 ?????????

[mrniceneasy]

Perhaps...
NAMM 2011 - 13-16 January 2011 ????????? - Perhaps you may may correct Pete!

[a.schemkes]

KORG doesn't make any progress??? But how about we making progress

Ujst study more, practice a lot and play a lot. THat's all you need to do in stead of buying a Pa3xpro or 4xpro or 5xpro...... every other year like Tyros