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@ Aisha,

Hi Aisha, I finished the Dance style for " Marjanee".

Original link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr6swr0_ ... re=channel

it's got 3 Intros, 4 Vars, 3 Fills, (actually 4 Fills, but you have to decide which one you want to drop, cause there's only 3 Fills available on the keyboard at this moment), and no Ending, because the song didn't have a seperate Ending.


I still haven't finished mixing the parts,but I recorded a fast short Audio Demo of it. You can listen to it on:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default ... ID=1119182.

or you can download it from :

http://rapidshare.com/files/435580175/Marjanee.mp3

Your friend Sundeep sent me an e-mail about some other dance songs. Please let them know that I'm not familiar with names and Indian dance styles at all. To be honest I'm totally clueless about those names. If you're interested in a particular dance, then you MUST send me a song that represents that style really well. If you give me a model, then I can develop a style for it with no problem, but if you just request stuff based on indian names, I can't help you. I'll send you guys the slow song next week. It's a very busy week for me, I dont' think if i'll be able to work on it this week..
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Sorry, forgot all about the chord chart for the song "Marjanee". Here it goes:

http://rapidshare.com/files/435708963/M ... _chart.pdf
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Post by Aisha »

Assyrianpianist wrote:
it's got 3 Intros, 4 Vars, 3 Fills, (actually 4 Fills, but you have to decide which one you want to drop, cause there's only 3 Fills available on the keyboard at this moment), and no Ending, because the song didn't have a seperate Ending.

Your friend Sundeep sent me ...
Hi Sam, Thank you very much. That was beautifully programmed. It went beyond our expectation and we're very happy about that. The feeling of the rhythm made my daughter get up and dance. :lol: There's no rush for the other song. Do it whenever you have time. I'm truly glad about purchasing this keyboard.
I have a question about the style. I'm not sure what to do with Fill 4. How do I listen to it, and If i liked it, how do I replace one of those 3 with this one?

we'll make sure to send you a link or mp3 file next time. There's so many different dances in India, and just a name may not be a very discriptive reference.
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Avijit wrote:
Please see my site: http://www.freewebs.com/avijitsarkar/
Just click on the "KORG PA800 Indian Styles" link on the left.
Hello Avijit,
we listened to your styles. Were these styles done on PA800? They sounded very thin compared to the professional built-in korg styles. That's just my opinion as a listener and it doesn't mean I could create anything better myself.
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Aisha wrote:I'm not sure what to do with Fill 4. How do I listen to it, and If i liked it, how do I replace one of those 3 with this one?
You don't have to worry about it. That's just a bonus, but if you really want to see how it sounds. Import it and save it to another user slot. I'll pm you the directions for How to...Glad you liked it.
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Hi Aisha,
The midi file for the song "Amplifier" is ready. I still need to assign the proper sounds and do some small editing here and there. The piano part that comes later, it's not part of the file. That's just some bad improv I did on spot, so you can play your own arrangement along with the file. you can listen to a short demo of it :

http://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... i&newref=1

Youtube link for the original track:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuCFRaFWjwY
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Sanjai wrote:Hi Niranjan,

Sounds interesting I hope the price is reasonable and not commercial.

Also I have the indian drumkit what Shaheed sampled and Nedim made. I think you need the tabla and dholak sounds.

Let's make the ritme's neutral so you can play a lot of songs with one ritme.

Let's pick the most used ritmes used in Bollywood songs.

Bolly Waltz
Bhangra
Bhadjan
Ghazal
Dadra
Kerwa
Bolly Twist
Bhojpuri
Bolly Dance
Teentaal
Rupak
Ektal
jhaptal
jhoomra
tilwada
dhamar
Ektal
Kawaly

check: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tala_(music)

Hope this is enough info yet.

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SR
Are you looking for authentic Tabla Styles?

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Hi Aisha, this is the last style for this year. I'll be very busy this week, and won't be able to work on more songs. If you guys are in a hurry, you can post the list that you sent me on here to see if anybody else wants to work on them as well.

This last style is for the song called "Twist". here's the Youtube link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgmeL_xuB0I

And here's a short demo of the style:

http://www.soundclick.com/player/single ... i&newref=1
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Hello All,
I followed this thread for a while and finally decided to post. Please do not go after me because I don't mean to offend anyone. My apologies in advance. So here we go...

I think you folks are looking for some indian, afghani, pakistani styles. I have also seen some posts that people are "looking for table styles", "afghani styles" etc etc.

I think you are better off creating styles based off taals. For example, have 3 types of Kehrwa styles that should cover most of the bollywood geet and ghazals. Then have about 3 styles in Dhadra that should cover Khemta, filmi and typical Mehdi Hasan and Jagjit style ghazals. Add about 2 for Bhangra styles that should cover you for Daler Mehndi type Bhangras. You'll need about 2 that have Kehrwa + filmi bhangra music which is now coming in almost all Bollywood films. May be have a Rahet Fateh Ali style that covers Tujhe Dekh Dekh Sona, Surili Akhiyoon Wale type stuff.

Use these as a template once you have them and record your custom intro, fill and endings based off the songs if needed. I play intro and interval etc live so I always need strong beats, bass and guitars.

You can always play these beats with a drumkit and congo like we used to do in 1980 and 1990. However PA800 is an extremely powerful board, capable of producing high quality styles that sound rich but also real to most during a live performance. It should be authentic in sense that instruments such as Dholak, Matka, Duff and Dhol should sound like them. The point is that when you play typical Kehrwa, Dhadra, Bhangra; it should sound as such to your audience.

There are just too many bollywood songs being released and there is no way you will ever be able to keep up by creating songs. Its one thing to have a nice style in your collection but its a different thing to be able to play it live. I would highly recommend that you play the Intro, Interval and Endings live if you don't already do that. This will makes it much easier to get the songs.

It's been busy for me lately and I no longer have the time to play and practice. It's not uncommon in my area for a keyboard player to not know the singer and the song selection till we meet each other at the gig. I am sure this is how it is for most of you if you play live.

Let me know if this is making any sense to you guys and I'll post part 2.
May be offer some help...This was a long post :D
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adminrxb wrote:This was a long post :D
and it missed the most important key point. Not even one single audio sample to any kind of beat/style/music or anything with sound at all was presented. The rest was just some common sense stuff. Of course it's always better to make something as real as possible!!! That's the case with every instrument in the world!

well this one paragraph wasn't common sense but rather shocking for me:

"It's been busy for me lately and I no longer have the time to play and practice. It's not uncommon in my area for a keyboard player to not know the singer and the song selection till we meet each other at the gig. I am sure this is how it is for most of you if you play live"

you dont' know the singer, you don't know the songs, you dont' have time to practice, and you still dare to take the gig? Kudos to you!

I highly encourage you to include some audio samples in "part 2".
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I expected some criticism because of the obvious reasons sam mentioned. There was hardly anything in my post besides some common sense.

I am averaging about 2 gigs a month which is slow. So i admit that i am no longer in the flow like I used to. This is due to the family life and my full time job requiring more time.

I'll get a couple of styles on mp3 for you to hear over the weekend. I'll play some chords and may be some notes. That should give you an idea of what has worked for me. I am always learning and hoping that you'll help me improve some things.
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adminrxb wrote:I'll get a couple of styles on mp3 for you to hear over the weekend. I'll play some chords and may be some notes.
Now that sounds like a real deal! Why just play some chords and notes? Why not just pick the best styles you have and play a song or two? It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes. Thanks
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Sounds like a plan. I'll email it to you this weekend.
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adminrxb wrote:Sounds like a plan. I'll email it to you this weekend.
Actually, it'd be best if you post them on here so others could hear them too. There are a lot of users who might be interested in your demos.
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Hi Guy's . dose anyone know if Korg India made any decent Harmonium sound for PA800.

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